HELP PLEASE!!! Still having problems with the starter

[Alaska]

Still making a winding noise! the only things I have done were change the lifters and the water pump cant get it to start!!! Please Help Me!!!


Pete

 

[Alaska]

The starter is new and I have taken the battery down to get that tested too, the same thing was hapenning to my other starter and I had it tested at the store! is there a thing with fords I have heard were it needs a lot more cranking amps to start it than most other kind of trucks help me please been having this problem for months now!!!

 

[blubuckaroo]

Fords use a bendix drive to engage the starter gear. Bench testing won't find a bad bendix. The starter will spin but not engage the ring gear. Take the new starter back. It's NG.

 

[Alaska]

I have checked all the grounds and all the connections around the Solenoid to the starter and to the battery. The solenoid is fine i tried to jump it by crossing over the solenoid contacts with two skrew drivers but the same damn winding noise!

Also when I connect the negative connector to the battery there is no spark and I cannot get it to spark when I connect it to the battery this a problem is there a short somewhere?

 

[Alaska]

The engine is rotating though so it is engaging the ring gear.

 

[65 mustang]

Cheeper reman starters usually make a funny noise.When they rebuild them they check everything out but only replace what is broke or out of tolerance. Try a starter from Ford. Cost more but you do get what you pay for. Scott

 

[gpete]

starters

Cheeper reman starters usually make a funny noise.When they rebuild them they check everything out but only replace what is broke or out of tolerance. Try a starter from Ford. Cost more but you do get what you pay for. Scott

I got one of the summit starters best value for money

 

[Flash69]

Did you have your distributor out. You may not be timed right.

 

[DirtDonk]

I don't know that Fords take any more CCA's than anybody else. And if they do it can't be all that much.
So you're saying that the starter makes a different noise than when you first bought it? And the second one makes the same noise?
Do you perhaps have a later-model gear-reduction starter?
What year is your Bronco and what engine is in it? EFI conversion or original type?

When exactly did this start? Before or after the lifter replacements?
To do the lifters, you took the distributor out, right? Like Flash69 said, if you had it out it's very possible that it's not timed right. Happens all the time.
Same thing for getting the spark plug wires mixed up. Did you remove the wires too? I assume yes, since you probably had the heads off too.
Ford 302/5.0's came with 2 different firing orders over the years. Did yours go back on the way they came off?

If it's engaging the engine and turning it over, then you have another issue as well. No matter what sound it's making, if your engine isn't starting then either it's not turning fast enough (not too likely), or you're not getting any fuel or spark.
I know you said "winding", but just what does that sound like? I've never heard that description before, so I want to make sure I know what you're saying. Is it making a rough grinding sound? Uneven sound? Something else.
Sorry to make you go through this, but it might help.

And for now, forget about the starter and check for spark. As long as it's turning the engine over, it's at least partially working. So move on to find out why your engine is not firing.
Have you tested for spark? Have you looked inside the distributor when the starter is turning to verify that the distributor is turning?

Just a few more things to think about.
BTW, got any pics of the layout?

Paul

 

[DirtDonk]

Also when I connect the negative connector to the battery there is no spark and I cannot get it to spark when I connect it to the battery this a problem is there a short somewhere?

Do you mean there's no spark at the plugs? Or no spark at the actual battery connector?
If at the battery, that's normal. You don't always get a spark when connecting the battery. You mainly get a spark at the terminal when something somewhere in the system is turned on. Like if you had the key turned on when you hooked it up, you'd probably get a spark.

No spark is not necessarily a bad thing. But it could mean that literally nothing is working. In that case, you might have a bad fusible link at the solenoid.
Do all your other systems work when the battery is hooked up? Heater, lights, radio?

Paul

 

[mlogan24]

I got one of the summit starters best value for money

I'm gonna have to disagree. RRRAAAYYY sells the best for the buck. The Nippondenso starters he sells are the best I've seen (compared to the OEM, Mean Green's, Summit mini-torq's, any of them).

 

[DirtDonk]

I just saw something you mentioned in your other thread from yesterday on this subject Alaska. I'm just answering here to keep things mostly in one place, and because this thread's more current.

You said the engine wasn't turning over like it should. Does that mean it's not spinning as fast as it used to with the starter?
Or is it turning over kind of unevenly, like one cylinder is trying harder than another one?
I sort of asked that already above, but thought I'd relate it to something you said before.

And on that subject, no reason to start a second thread next time you don't get more answers as fast as you'd like (especially on a weekend!). You can just keep bumping your existing one back to the top of the list by adding another post or query.
Keeping it all in one place can save some hassle for you so you're not re-answering questions you might already have answered. And for us by not asking questions you've already been asked in the other thread.

Don't mean to sound so preachy, but since it looks like you just joined up I thought it might help in the future.

Paul