Help with a 435/205 conversion

[John Griswold]

I've got the 435/205 trany/transfer case combo sitting in the frame behind a 289 on Wild Horses heavy duty moter mounts. I'm trying to figure out how far I want to lower the transfer case in the back to get good drive shaft angles and not put too much pressure on the moter mount bushings. I also need to clear the body floor. The body is off right now and will be put back with a 2" body lift. The suspension lift will be 5.5". Can anyone running a similar set up tell me where the 3 transfer case side bolt holes fall in relation to the frame. Right now mine are just above the top of the frame but I think I can drop it more. Any input on the bracket you have for these three holes would be great too. Thanks!

 

[zeeman1]

I'll see if I can get you some pics of where mine is sitting. I didn't do much measuring when I put it all in though,. so I'm not sure you want it looking line mine....

 

[John Griswold]

Hey, if it works its a good starting point.

Thanks

 

[zeeman1]

Only one I can find is the mount I bolted to it.. I'll get the wife's camera out tonight if I remember.

 

[69BroncoDad]

This is how my 435/205 swap turned out...had to fabricate the crossmember

 

[69BroncoDad]

one more

 

[zeeman1]

Here's the best I could get running out to work this morning. Hope this helps some. It looks like 69BorncoDads sits a good bit lower than mine from what I can see in the pics.

 

[69BroncoDad]

Have you tried running without the side mount???.....I haven't done a side mount yet..a friend of mine has the same set up and doesn't have the side mount..been wondering if I needed one or not

 

[John Griswold]

Zeeman1, yours looks like the mount is above the frame rail and the mount just rests on the frame with the rubber bushing.

69Bronco Dad, your three holes on the driver side look to be just down inside the frame. Do you have a bracket into the three holes and to the frame?

Do both of you have the bodies on now and clear allright and with how much body lift?

Thanks

 

[John Griswold]

69 BroncoDad, sorry I missed your last post about not having a bracket yet. I'm not sure if you need it but I hope to beat on this truck a bit and would like to try and get one on. I dont necessarily want to drill anymore holes in the frame so it resting on the frame like Zeeman1's may be an option. If you can, look at yours from the driver side and see if you can see the three holes above the frame or did you drop it down inside the frame?

Thanks

 

[69BroncoDad]

my crossmember is adjustable...I can raise and lower as needed

 

[69BroncoDad]

its all out now...getting ready to paint the frame and i'm running a 2 inch body lift

 

[zeeman1]

Have you tried running without the side mount???.....I haven't done a side mount yet..a friend of mine has the same set up and doesn't have the side mount..been wondering if I needed one or not

I haven't, but that is because I used part of the crossmember off the 78 bronco it came from. It only has one horizontal bolt through it that lets it roll side to side. I don't trust just my motor mounts to stop the whole thing from rolling so the side mount was put in place. I do have a 3" body lift, which makes this setup quite a bit easier to install.

If most of you are running the T/C lower than that I'd be interested in seeing where at on the frame as I really just guessed as to where it should be mounted height-wise.

 

[69BroncoDad]

i just centered it as much as possible...and lowered it for a good drive line angle...I can adjust up and down if needed.

 

[blazinchuck]

heres mine installed(no body lift and raised the floor to clear)

i had to raise my 205 up high enough to clear the cage arm frame mounts...so i installed monster motor mounts to raise the motor back up. made the trans mount outa DOM and brackets that bolt back into the original frame holes.



as you can see, im not running a side mount yet...wheeled the chit outta it so far and things seems fine. i have a side mount and plan to fit it in there some how...w/out a body lift...things are real tight

 

[zeeman1]

It looks like your crossmember (having two bolts) would hold it in place ok. That looks to be about the same height as mine, and I didn't raise the engine up, maybe I should drop mine down a couple inches, that would help out some angles...

 

[69BroncoDad]

that looks great !! i wanted to use the original mount holes also...but my t/c adapter mounts are not in line with the original mount holes...thats why my crossmember kinda sets back a lil bit....i use the same mount as you

 

[69BroncoDad]

I tried to keep it low for decent drive line angles

 

[blazinchuck]

i wouldnt worry too much about angles...if your cv's arent in a bind, it should be fine...thats why they are cv's cmon;D

 

[69BroncoDad]

why do you want your t/c so far up into your body??