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I think my start is going out

norm02

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So I just got back from a short cruise, parked it back in the shop, and then turned it off. Went to restart it about 15 minutes later and it now makes a weird noise when I turn the key.

It does not feel like the starter is engaging. In fact, it almost sounds like my cordless driver when it's getting a bolt tightened up really snug. Any ideas on what it could be?
 

5001craig

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Sounds like a dead battery to me. I'd put a charger on it and see if it will start after charging for a while. After it starts, see if it is putting out 13+ volts. If not, maybe your alternator is not charging.
 

tmacstickman

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That would be the starter. The op bolt is a little tough to get to, but it wont take long to replace. Good luck
 
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Sounds like a dead battery to me. I'd put a charger on it and see if it will start after charging for a while. After it starts, see if it is putting out 13+ volts. If not, maybe your alternator is not charging.

Shouldn't be the battery and I just got a new alternator yesterday. It's not making the clicking sound they normally do when the battery is toast.

This is more like the sound I described and it seems like it's coming from the starter area. I did put the batter on a charger last night just in case.
 

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Could still be all of the above.
The sound you describe is still the starter relay/solenoid on the fender making it's clicking sound, but with a little more power available to it.

A really dead battery, or other defect in the starting system will often give you that one loud click. But a going-dead battery will give you the torque-brake sound of a drill-driver reaching it's torque setting.

But other things that can cause that sound are:
1. bad starter relay.
2. bad starter
3. stuck starter (see bad starter);)
4. bad connections between the key and the relay.
5. bad connections between the relay and the battery
6. bad connections between the relay and the starter.

A new alternator is NEVER a guarantee of working anymore.
For one thing, it could be connected incorrectly. For another the regulator might be going bad (did you replace that at the same time?). For a third, the battery and starter cables might just have chosen this moment to coincidentally go south for the winter. And unfortunately too, new parts are no guarantee of working. Did you verify 14.5 volts with the engine running after you replaced the alternator? With the battery maybe going dead immediately after a new alternator install, that would be everyone's first thing to suspect. Why did you replace it in the first place? And did you check the battery voltage at some point after your trouble started? If not, you should.
And lastly, even a reasonably good battery can go bad without notice. More often in very hot or very cold weather.

So you still have some things to check.

Paul
 
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norm02

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Could still be all of the above.
The sound you describe is still the starter relay/solenoid on the fender making it's clicking sound, but with a little more power available to it.

A really dead battery, or other defect in the starting system will often give you that one loud click. But a going-dead battery will give you the torque-brake sound of a drill-driver reaching it's torque setting.

But other things that can cause that sound are:
1. bad starter relay.
2. bad starter
3. stuck starter (see bad starter);)
4. bad connections between the key and the relay.
5. bad connections between the relay and the battery
6. bad connections between the relay and the starter.

A new alternator is NEVER a guarantee of working anymore.
For one thing, it could be connected incorrectly. For another the regulator might be going bad (did you replace that at the same time?). For a third, the battery and starter cables might just have chosen this moment to coincidentally go south for the winter. And unfortunately too, new parts are no guarantee of working. Did you verify 14.5 volts with the engine running after you replaced the alternator? With the battery maybe going dead immediately after a new alternator install, that would be everyone's first thing to suspect. Why did you replace it in the first place? And did you check the battery voltage at some point after your trouble started? If not, you should.
And lastly, even a reasonably good battery can go bad without notice. More often in very hot or very cold weather.

So you still have some things to check.

Paul

Replaced starter and solenoid. Starts and runs like a champ!
 
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