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I would recommend against Grundy Insurance

73azbronco

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Please define off road. I live on a road, it is gravel, but on road. One of the carriers three years ago said they would not cover me, I forget who. I tried to claim forest service roads are by definition roads. No response. My gravel road is superior to half the paved roads out there, plus 15 mph limit to boot so I'm not cracking glass with rocks.
 

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There is a reason there is a high percentage of “single car accidents” in Moab. All those late model heeps aren't covered off road either.
Not saying do anything illegal, but I probably would not call for help until I'm back on the shoulder of a paved road. “Look, that just happened”.
 

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73azbronco-

That's what Haggerty explained to me for almost a decade. Finally Haggerty will now cover that use as listed on the policy they sent me
 

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I believe a lot of coverage depends on the agent.

State farm I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. I have several family members who work there and say they wouldn't use them either, except they work there so what does that tell you.
 

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After 75 yrs and an A+ rating probably not, but do you want to have your $50-75K + valued vehicle essentially w/o coverage because you don't really KNOW if you're covered or not? Not very reassuring is it...????
I currently have Grundy on my $75K Bronco and I have no issue with their guidelines because I've read the policy. But I've also been licensed to sell insurance for 16 years and I know how these companies handle claims. They are not going to deny a theft claim because I took the Bronco to Ace Hardware to get a bolt. There is no verbiage in the Grundy or Hagerty policy that denies comp/collision/liability coverage due to errand running.
I wanted to increase the stated value last year. I was told that I needed an appraisal....Only to be told that State Farm disagreed with the appraisal. What a colossal waste of time and money
What value was it appraised at? I would definitely get another agent involved. 37% of value is a joke. I've insured several Broncos over $50K that were with State Farm.
I only drive the Bronco a few weeks a year. It's actually in storage in Utah. It's important that the coverage include off-road driving. The Bronco isn't a show truck; but, it's really in pretty nice condition. It's certainly not something that I take out irresponsibly. I did some high level searching for other companies to cover the Bronco; but, I haven't found anyone I am comfortable with. Hagerty said they wouldn't cover it because it is driven off-road.
Hagerty's response to the offroading question was always a solid no. Even though their policy doesn't say anything about that. About 2 years ago they relaxed their underwriting rules and they allow quite a bit of offroading now. This is Hagerty's new stance and comes directly from a licensed underwriting:

If a vehicle is driven occasionally on a dirt or gravel road that is a named road on a map, or county/state maintained year-round road, that would be covered as sometimes the only way to a paved road is on a gravel one.

However, if the vehicle is used for off-road recreation on a non-maintained road/trail (like a two track road), it will not be covered under our policies. This includes dune-crawling or rock-crawling for fun or competition. These types of use are typically hard on the vehicle themselves and present a large risk of damage to the vehicle, observers or drivers.

Camping use and parking the vehicle overnight in a campground is not covered by our policies. That falls into recreational off-road use per our underwriting guidelines.

Driving the vehicle to work once or twice a week or month is not as much of an issue as the camping for our underwriters.


I actually just noticed a new question in the quoting process last week and they will now allow you to drive the vehicle to work 1 month a year.
I believe a lot of coverage depends on the agent.
The information you get from an Agent can vary greatly. But the policy is worded the same no matter who sells it. If you don't like the answer go directly to the company and ask to speak with a licensed underwriter
 

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Hagerty's response to the offroading question was always a solid no. Even though their policy doesn't say anything about that. About 2 years ago they relaxed their underwriting rules and they allow quite a bit of offroading now. This is Hagerty's new stance and comes directly from a licensed underwriting:

If a vehicle is driven occasionally on a dirt or gravel road that is a named road on a map, or county/state maintained year-round road, that would be covered as sometimes the only way to a paved road is on a gravel one.

However, if the vehicle is used for off-road recreation on a non-maintained road/trail (like a two track road), it will not be covered under our policies. This includes dune-crawling or rock-crawling for fun or competition. These types of use are typically hard on the vehicle themselves and present a large risk of damage to the vehicle, observers or drivers.

Camping use and parking the vehicle overnight in a campground is not covered by our policies. That falls into recreational off-road use per our underwriting guidelines.

Driving the vehicle to work once or twice a week or month is not as much of an issue as the camping for our underwriters.


I actually just noticed a new question in the quoting process last week and they will now allow you to drive the vehicle to work 1 month a year.

The information you get from an Agent can vary greatly. But the policy is worded the same no matter who sells it. If you don't like the answer go directly to the company and ask to speak with a licensed underwriter

Hagerty seems to be coming around - I appreciate ElJefe's work in helping clear a lot of this up for me in the past few years. I drive mine on a lot of non-maintained roads/trails that DO have a road number on maps. Wonder what they'd think of that? Just a bit more confidence in their coverage and I think I'd go their way - although I don't like their stance on camping/campgrounds.

Todd Z.
 

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... and yet on Haggerty's approval of insuring my Bronco they quoted me on the approved application as using it for "camping". This is IN print from Haggerty. Maybe it's because I told them how I was going to use it? No idea.
 

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73azbronco-

That's what Haggerty explained to me for almost a decade. Finally Haggerty will now cover that use as listed on the policy they sent me

Thanks I will check that, right now I'm undercovered at minimal value with USAA.
 

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I currently have Grundy on my $75K Bronco and I have no issue with their guidelines because I've read the policy. But I've also been licensed to sell insurance for 16 years and I know how these companies handle claims. They are not going to deny a theft claim because I took the Bronco to Ace Hardware to get a bolt. There is no verbiage in the Grundy or Hagerty policy that denies comp/collision/liability coverage due to errand running.

What value was it appraised at? I would definitely get another agent involved. 37% of value is a joke. I've insured several Broncos over $50K that were with State Farm.

Hagerty's response to the offroading question was always a solid no. Even though their policy doesn't say anything about that. About 2 years ago they relaxed their underwriting rules and they allow quite a bit of offroading now. This is Hagerty's new stance and comes directly from a licensed underwriting:

If a vehicle is driven occasionally on a dirt or gravel road that is a named road on a map, or county/state maintained year-round road, that would be covered as sometimes the only way to a paved road is on a gravel one.

However, if the vehicle is used for off-road recreation on a non-maintained road/trail (like a two track road), it will not be covered under our policies. This includes dune-crawling or rock-crawling for fun or competition. These types of use are typically hard on the vehicle themselves and present a large risk of damage to the vehicle, observers or drivers.

Camping use and parking the vehicle overnight in a campground is not covered by our policies. That falls into recreational off-road use per our underwriting guidelines.

Driving the vehicle to work once or twice a week or month is not as much of an issue as the camping for our underwriters.


I actually just noticed a new question in the quoting process last week and they will now allow you to drive the vehicle to work 1 month a year.

The information you get from an Agent can vary greatly. But the policy is worded the same no matter who sells it. If you don't like the answer go directly to the company and ask to speak with a licensed underwriter
Seems an odd answer for camping, what if you are in a paved forest campground at a paved site? Thats by definition, On road.

So gravel or named roads are good. Then I submit they would have a hard time denying any posted forest service road as "offroad". It may be a rough road, but it is on road. By definition in national forests, you can't willy nilly drive around the forest off road unless you have deep pockets, or it is a posted ORV area specifically for ORVs.

In reality, I am not going to make a claim if I roll it down a hill, my fault, I'll fix it. But if I'm trolling down my gravel road and a darn quad doing 60 Tbones me, yeah, I'll submit a claim. So the offroad limits seem just odd, I'm not going to make an offroad accident claim if I'm locked in 4 low at level 4 and it flips over backwards. At my stage in life I'm at level one with potholes and I'm happy.
 

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Seems an odd answer for camping, what if you are in a paved forest campground at a paved site? Thats by definition, On road.

I asked Hagerty about that a few years ago. I was told that the issue was not the campground itself, or the road, but the fact that the Bronco is not garaged at night. If you are attending a hobby related event it is fine. I asked specifically about staying at the KOA in Townsend while attending Super Celebration. It's coveredÂ…..
 

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I recently went through my 3 Broncos with my broker, we have Safeco.

I placed declared values on a 74 Ranger that is sitting awaiting an engine, at like $24k, as it sits, for fire and theft in/from the garage. I placed declared values on the other 2 driving.

I sent them pics they asked for, I put in 2 security cams they didn't ask for, and they are covered. I don't know specifically on the off-road question.
 

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In reality, I am not going to make a claim if I roll it down a hill, my fault, I'll fix it. But if I'm trolling down my gravel road and a darn quad doing 60 Tbones me, yeah, I'll submit a claim. So the offroad limits seem just odd, I'm not going to make an offroad accident claim if I'm locked in 4 low at level 4 and it flips over backwards. At my stage in life I'm at level one with potholes and I'm happy.

This summarizes my feelings exactly right here. If I do something stupid - I take personal responsibility for that and will suck it up and pay for it myself somehow. I'm worried about the ding dongs coming too fast around a blind corner, etc.

Todd Z.
 

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This summarizes my feelings exactly right here. If I do something stupid - I take personal responsibility for that and will suck it up and pay for it myself somehow. I'm worried about the ding dongs coming too fast around a blind corner, etc.

Todd Z.

I third this ;)
 

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This summarizes my feelings exactly right here. If I do something stupid - I take personal responsibility for that and will suck it up and pay for it myself somehow. I'm worried about the ding dongs coming too fast around a blind corner, etc.

Todd Z.

I'm the same way, in reality I think most are this way, we have to pay for the 1% that don't.

I've tried for years to get an agreed value policy without comprehensive for collision just value fir total loss from theft or catastrophic incident. I want it for the obvious reason but to also have a leg to stand on for value if dealing with other incident like a house fire with it parked in the garage or someone t boning me on the street
 

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Mercury offers a classic vehicle insurance, too. I only found out about it because the agent that I was dealing with saw my Bronco in a background picture I sent about my property. I will inquire and see what the terms are.
 

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I have Hagerty on both my broncos. One of them is mostly a trail rig and I realize that I can not and will not make a claim if something happens while off road. I needed good insurance for all the other bad things that might happen to them. That being said I just received a Hagerty Drivers Club magazine and on page 75 is a picture of a nice looking Denver Bronco driving off road with mud in his tires. So it looks like Hagerty is promoting off road use of a Bronco in this article. The Bronco owners name is Eric Oberlander or a least that is what the article stated. Just curious if someone on here may know him. It is actually a Stroppe Bronco. There is a You Tube video, Hagerty Why I Drive.
 

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I have Hagerty on both my broncos. One of them is mostly a trail rig and I realize that I can not and will not make a claim if something happens while off road. I needed good insurance for all the other bad things that might happen to them. That being said I just received a Hagerty Drivers Club magazine and on page 75 is a picture of a nice looking Denver Bronco driving off road with mud in his tires. So it looks like Hagerty is promoting off road use of a Bronco in this article. The Bronco owners name is Eric Oberlander or a least that is what the article stated. Just curious if someone on here may know him. It is actually a Stroppe Bronco. There is a You Tube video, Hagerty Why I Drive.

There are a number of people on here that know him. As you can tell from the video, he's got quite the collection!

Todd Z.
 
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FYI after research and talking with customer service, I ended up going with Hagerty. It was more expensive but definitely gave me the most peace of mind.
 
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