• Welcome to ClassicBroncos! - You are currently viewing the forums as a GUEST. To take advantage of all the site features, please take a moment to register. It's fast, simple and absolutely free. So please join our community today!
    If you have problems registering or can't log into your account, please contact Admin.

Is this a new engine or orginal refurb

alexdeacon

New Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2020
Messages
1
Total noob here so sorry for the basic question. Saw this engine on a local Bronco for sale. It says 302 on it but many of the others I have seen online seem to have new engines... but this one looks old / original? Am I reading this all correctly?

https://imgur.com/EnrLvoD
https://imgur.com/j0ORh3S

Do lots of refurbs have new 302 engines in them and this is an old one?

Or do they all have old engines?

TIA

EnrLvoD


and

j0ORh3S
 

DirtDonk

Contributor
Bronco Guru
Joined
Nov 3, 2003
Messages
51,622
Hey Alex, welcome to classicbroncos!

There are no hard and fast rules to this kind of thing. There is no "this is always done" and "this is never done" action in a used vehicle market. About the only thing consistent with them is that some people tell the truth, and some people lie, and still others don't know what they have because they bought it simply to flip for a higher price.

Early Broncos from '66 to '77 were available with only two sizes of V8 engine from the factory (two or three Inline-6 engines over the years, but we're just talking V8 now) and one was the 289 from late '66 to early '69, then the 302 thereafter.
A later model 5.0 liter is still a 302. It's just a newer designation usually to indicate the change over to fuel injection, but Ford was using liter designations long before that. Just not consistently.

The engine in your pics looks extremely original, but that does not mean it's original to the Bronco, nor does it mean that it has not been gone through and refurbished.
But usually if someone goes to the trouble of refurbishing or fully rebuilding an engine, they at least make it look new with some paint and such.

There are no "numbers matching" things with Broncos either You won't find many VIN numbers stamped into various parts. The best you can do is look up the casting date codes and engineering numbers cast into the engine block near the starter and that side of the block. That would at least tell you it was made a couple of months before the Bronco was assembled. That's about as close as you can get to knowing if it's original to the vehicle.
That decal will tell you some things too though, so if it's a '68 Bronco for example, and the number date on the decal is '79, then you can be sure it was swapped in at some point.

Is that your question?

Paul
 

DirtDonk

Contributor
Bronco Guru
Joined
Nov 3, 2003
Messages
51,622
Looking back over the pictures, an initial guess is that it's a '74 or later Bronco that has had the distributor changed and the brake lines from the master cylinder changed.
Also the dipstick is on the wrong side, so the oil pan has been changed as well.

Is this a rig you're looking to buy? Is it expensive (aren't they all these days!) and are they claiming things like "barn find" or "rust free" or "all original" and the like?

If so, you're going to need a lot more pictures.
Maybe even have someone go look at it with you. If you're near a member here they may be willing to go with you. So far nobody has snaked a sale out from under a prospective owner, so our reputation is still intact!;D
So far!%)

Paul
 

DirtDonk

Contributor
Bronco Guru
Joined
Nov 3, 2003
Messages
51,622
Maybe it's '75 and later, but I thought that CA trucks got the Dura Spark / Breakerless Ignition setup in '74. But that may have just been catalytic converters, as some expert members here have said '75 was the first year for the electronic ignition if I remember.

Paul
 
Top