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Leaf Spring Refresh - Disassemble or Not?

LUBr LuvR

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Doing some cleaning/painting on the axles, etc. Have seen a number of threads with the leaf springs disassembled for this.

Then came across this video from Deaver stating why NOT to take apart the spring pack.

For those with far more technical knowledge, please chime in with your experience/expertise?

 

Dylan_Shaffer

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If they’re not new I’d definitely take them apart, I disassembled mine and there was a nice layer of rust between each leaf, talk about friction! Grinding them down to bare metal sucked but they took a fresh coat of paint super nicely. I also threw a thin layer of super lube grease between leaf on reassembly to prevent excess friction, definitely mixed opinions on doing this but they flex way better than before.
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Doing some cleaning/painting on the axles, etc. Have seen a number of threads with the leaf springs disassembled for this.

Then came across this video from Deaver stating why NOT to take apart the spring pack.

For those with far more technical knowledge, please chime in with your experience/expertise?

Deaver spring is in Santa Ana, California.
Eaton Detroit Spring is in Detroit, Michigan.

I had to look it up, because when I watched the video, I knew that I could only get "man-splain'in" like that from a Midwest OEM Tier 1 supplier. And sure enough...Detroit.

Do not use engine enamel on springs. Epoxy primer is the only coating I've found that is impervious to brake cleaner. So I use it everywhere.

All that nonsense about paint wear is a bunch of hooey. Keep your u-bolts tight.
 

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James is right. I’d be doing .030” steel spacer between each leaf and a plastic friction pad at each tip. I know that’s more than needed but the ultimate in reduced friction leaf springs. Some were nqsd has posted pics recently but my search is failing me. Epoxy primer for the win.
 
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LUBr LuvR

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Gents, thanks so much for the input. Figured y‘all could separate fiction from fact, and trust your opinions far more than theirs.

Good to know about the epoxy primer. Do you also use it, rather than paint on the backing plates?

Dylan, no these springs are definitely not new, lol. They do still have the nylon friction pads at the tips, and one in the center, above the bottom leaf. Not finding any online that seem similar to the stock ones, Yeller, do you have a source/part number?

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jamesroney

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James is right. I’d be doing .030” steel spacer between each leaf and a plastic friction pad at each tip. I know that’s more than needed but the ultimate in reduced friction leaf springs. Some were nqsd has posted pics recently but my search is failing me. Epoxy primer for the win.
One of the vendors on this site is selling springs manufactured as you describe. I bought a set, and pulled the center bolt to extract a leaf to get my height right. A whole bunch of steel spacers, and plastic friction pads appeared. I was really impressed. Somebody put some thought into these things.

(please note that these are NOT the springs that are sold by other vendors that come from an undisclosed foreign location, with the letters I-N-D-I-A stenciled in giant white paint. No way to know where those might come from. But they are remarkably low cost. And at some point, there is a value proposition that works.

There is a product called SPI Epoxy Primer that is available in a satin black. It is acceptable to use it as a top-coat. It is a 2 part system that wants warm temperature, and about 30 minutes of induction time before shooting. Any piece of metal that has any chance of seeing brake cleaner, or brake fluid should be sprayed with this stuff. The manufacturer says that the shelf life is 90 days, or something...but I can assure you that a couple of years, and severe discoloration prior to mixing seems to have no effect.

My only complaint is that normal lacquer thinner won't cut it as a solvent. So if you don't use urethane reducer as a cleaner...your HVLP gun will not come clean. And neither will your fingers. And be MUCH more diligent about masking and over-spray. Gone are the days of wiping up overspray with a can of brake clean and a towel. Oh, and I'm sure it will kill you if you breathe the vapor. So ignore all of the instructions except the one's about inhalation safety. PLEASE use the correct respirator.
 

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I've posted versions of this picture before, and I'm linking it rather than posting it because I selected it at it's largest size so that zooming in is easy. Leaf Spring Spacer Picture. That is an OEM GM 63" long leaf spring. Note the OEM spacers between the leaves that result in an air gap. Air, in this case, has zero friction. Important is that each leaf also has tip sliders as they both reduce friction and help maintain that air gap. I had those 7100's on that truck prior to installing those springs and their off the shelf 255/70 valving worked well. After installing those springs I didn't have enough rear damping. The difference in friction in the leaf springs was enough that I had to re-valve those dampers to 275/78.

Goes looking for "SPI Epoxy Primer"......
 

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I just purchased a set of wildhorses 3.5” springs
I took them apart and sanded all the ecoat off. I then sprayed 2k epoxy primer on them for rust protection. I also just used some satin spray paint to top coat them because it will be easy to touch up spay paint. If the spray bomb doesn’t hold up, I’ll use a 2k paint on them. When I disassembled the springs, there were steel spacers in between each leaf and plastic spacers on the tips like @ntsqd and @Jamesroney described. I took two leaves out as that’s the general consensus I’ve read so my bronco sits level. Plus I csllled wildhorses and that’s what they told me to do. I also got the 6* wedges. I’m installing them this weekend so I’ll see how level it sits and if my pinion angle is correct with the wedges.
 
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