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Long radius arm pros and cons?

Wingo4x4

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I'm contemplating upgrading to the duff long radius arms. Currently I am running stock radius arms on a 3.5" suspension lift on my 73 lubr with 34x10.50 tires. What are the pros and what are the cons of longer radius arms. Also would it change any of the suspension high in the front or rear?
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garberz

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I have the same amount of lift. I have yet to find any Cons running a longer radius arm. Mines a daily driver. The longer arms add more caster due to their mounting location, so you may need to use less of a degreed "C" bushing, depending on what you're running now. The pro's with them have been off the chart.

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Broncobowsher

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Arms will not change the height
long arms have less rotation during articulation, so less sway bar effect. So easier articulation and less highway sway bar effect.
The longer arms also reduce the brake anti-dive by shifting the brake torque force further back in the chassis.
You get less caster swing as the suspension cycles with long arms.
Long arms have less roll steer due to less wheelbase change as the suspension cycles. Short arms running a steeper angle have more wheelbase change and more roll steer, but if you have level short arms (drop radius arm brackets with a lift) there is less roll steer.
Long arms can get into breakover angle as the mounting point is further back on the chassis.
Long arms have caster correction built in, less bushing needed. But you can get into U-joint binding easier with long arms as the lack of caster swing makes the U-joint at the front pinion operate at a steeper angle as the suspension droops.

So as much as people love there long arms, they are not a fix for everything. There are true benefits, and if that is all you are after and can put blinders to the negatives they are the greatest thing ever. Some people will just claim them the greatest simply to justify to themselves the expense they put into them. I find them a bit pointless into a mild trail truck or a street truck.
 

Scoop

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There are no cons. ;D

OK, maybe harder to find a good forward lift point on a 2-post lift? :cool:
 

sykanr0ng

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Arms will not change the height
long arms have less rotation during articulation, so less sway bar effect. So easier articulation and less highway sway bar effect.
The longer arms also reduce the brake anti-dive by shifting the brake torque force further back in the chassis.
You get less caster swing as the suspension cycles with long arms.
Long arms have less roll steer due to less wheelbase change as the suspension cycles. Short arms running a steeper angle have more wheelbase change and more roll steer, but if you have level short arms (drop radius arm brackets with a lift) there is less roll steer.
Long arms can get into breakover angle as the mounting point is further back on the chassis.
Long arms have caster correction built in, less bushing needed. But you can get into U-joint binding easier with long arms as the lack of caster swing makes the U-joint at the front pinion operate at a steeper angle as the suspension droops.

So as much as people love there long arms, they are not a fix for everything. There are true benefits, and if that is all you are after and can put blinders to the negatives they are the greatest thing ever. Some people will just claim them the greatest simply to justify to themselves the expense they put into them. I find them a bit pointless into a mild trail truck or a street truck.

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Not worth the trouble on an uncut.

So if you're not ready to get out the sawzall.............
 
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Wingo4x4

Wingo4x4

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Mine is mostly a street truck with mild off roading planned in the future. The main reason I am contemplating them is the passenger side is about 1.5-2" lower then the driver side. After trying everything we now think it's because one of the radius arms is bent. So instead of just replacing one I am contemplating upgrading to the duff long arm set up.


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migs

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another great benefit of the Duff arms is tire clearance when turning. they are bent inward allowing for more clearance for larger tires and/or wheels with a large amount of back spacing.
 
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