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LOS ANGELES: Painless Wiring Harness Help on '73 Bronco

paddycurr

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Hi Bronco family, first time, short time.

I'm the new owner of a mostly stock '73 Bronco, and I started a rewiring project and bit off more than I could chew. Painless' wiring harness is very user friendly, but I'm in over my depth in the engine department and hoping to find someone local (Los Angeles) who'd be willing to help me finish the job. All of the dash, driver and passenger headlight and taillight section is complete, I just need a little help in the engine. Painless makes it relatively easy, all the wires are numbered and notated, but I have about 6 wires that need completing.

Anyone in Los Angeles with some experience rewiring who'd like to make a few bucks and can help me out?

Thanks all,
Patrick
 

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Hey Patrick, welcome!
And good luck with the project. Sorry I’m not closer.

But which wires are they? If you’ve gotten as far as you say, and it’s just a few wires remaining, you should be able to finish the job with just forum help I would think.
Even if not though, at least in the meantime we can start the process.

While you’re waiting for someone local to chime in, what exactly are you missing?
Or which wires exactly are you questioning?
Are you just running stock 73 ignition and Alternator? Stock gauges?
Or have you modified any of those aspects? Even going with fuel injection perhaps?

Let us know and we’ll see what we can do for starters.
 
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Hi DirtDonk, thanks for offering to help. I've seen your avatar all over this forum, you really are our Obi-Wan.

Truth is, I'm a novice in my engine parts vocabulary, and I'm having a hard time making reconnections or knowing what my specific truck needs. I unplugged all of the original factory harness myself and did a terrible job taking pictures for reconnection time. I do not believe my truck is setup with Duraspark.

I'm struggling with:
NEUTRAL SAFETY AND REVERSE SWITCH (can't find the plugs anywhere, I know it's supposed to be near the steering column, between transmission and firewall, and I can't find it anywhere).

COIL (routed the red/green COIL+ wire to the right side of the coil, the left terminal is still empty). Do I need to connect this brown wire (COIL+ to starter solenoid)? An identical brown wire comes out of the passenger harness section and is already hooked up to the starter solenoid, do I have to connect this to close the circuit?)

BALLAST RESISTOR (I'm pretty sure I need this, I THINK I'm running a points system ignition module (but what do I know, I can't find it!), no Duraspark).

The truck came with a wire connecting the choke to the alternator. Is this normal? I replaced the choke terminal with the choke wire from the harness and now that end coming out of the alternator has no home.

IGNITION MODULE
Can't find this anywhere. When I google these things, they all look the same, and I can't find it.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING A LOOK. You guys really are an incredible community here.

Thanks
Patrick
 

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Hey, thanks. Some of those should be pretty easy but we’ll see where everything is hiding.
First the neutral safety switch is only there if you have an automatic transmission. If you do, and it’s an original one for a bronco, the neutral safety switch is on the side of the transmission and has four wires coming out of it going to a single square four-wire connector.
Probably about 12 to 18 inches long on the wires so it can reach up behind the engine and near the firewall. Look for that and let’s see if we can work out the rest of the details.

The red with green is correct on the positive side of the coil. But depending on the coil you may need that ballast resistor in this wire first. Will get to that later.
The negative side of the coil comes directly from the distributor. If it is original points you can look at your distributor and there will be a single black wire coming out of it. This black wire goes to the negative side of the coil.
The only other wire to the negative side would be if you have a tachometer.

The brown wire you’re working with is the engine side of it. You already have the starter relay/solenoid side connected, so at some point the other end gets spliced into that red with green stripe wire on the coil.
Here again, we’ll talk about that in a bit along with the ballast resistor.

It’s easy enough to find out if you have a points type ignition. All you have to do is pull the distributor cap off and look inside.
Since you’re not familiar with these things just snap a picture and let us take a look at it. Or you don’t even have to remove the cap if you can find the wire, or wires coming out of the side of the distributor. Take a picture of that and we will let you know.
Again though, if it’s a single black wire it can only be a points ignition.

For the choke, that is correct. 73 was the first year that Ford used an electric assist choke using the white with black stator wire from the back of the alternator.
The Painless harness has this in place so if you still have the stock choke you connect one end of the white with black wire to the carburetor choke and the other half to the STA terminal on the back of the alternator.

Now for the ballast resistor. Yes, with a stock ignition system you need the ballast resistor.
The original Ford harness used a resistor wire under the dash, but all aftermarket harnesses use an external resistor module that you need to bolt to a metal surface in the engine compartment.
My recommendation is that you use some sort of a standoff to raise it above the metal so you don’t blister the paint. These things build up a tremendous amount of heat so you can’t have anything burnable or meltable near it at all.
Keep everything clear and away. Even paint…

On one end of the resistor you will connect the red with green wire. This is the input side.
On the other end you connect two wires. The brown wire and another wire that goes to the coil positive.
Usually there’s enough of the red with green wire that you simply cut the length off of it so that you can have red with green wire to the ballast resistor, and from the ballast resistor to the coil.
So you have one wire (red w/green) from the key on one end (input) of the resistor. And on the other end (output to the coil) you have two wires. The brown wire from the starter relay and the wire to the positive side of the coil.
Does most of that makes sense?

The resistor is there simply two lower voltage from the normal 12 V down to something more like eight or 9 V.
The brown wire gives the coil an extra jolt while the starter is cranking.

While you’re talking about it and working on all this, take a couple of photos of your engine compartment (even if it’s a spaghetti disaster) for us to check out.
We might be able to get a better grasp on things and point anything out that needs looking into.

Good luck!
 
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Wow. This is so thorough and beginner-friendly and EXACTLY what I was hoping for. The truck is a manual transmission, which is probably why I'm not able to find the neutral safety switch. Probably means I'm just looking for these two terminals to connect the reverse switch.

I'll climb into the engine today and try to knock out all of these very clear directions from you (THANK YOOOOOOU!) and I'll take some pictures and post them here for you all to take a look and check my work.

It's been such a bummer feeling so confident about the wiring running through the rest of the car, and then feeling I'll never finish with a messy engine section.

Your help has turned that tide. I'll post pictures later today.

Again, sincerely, thank you so much.

Patrick
 
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ENGINE OVERHEAD:

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NEUTRAL SAFETY AND REVERSE SWITCH INTO SQUARE FOUR POINT CONNECTOR INTO TWO PRONGS (still can't find where they go)

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OVERHEAD OF COIL

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LITTLE BLACK WIRE COMING OUT OF DISTRIBUTOR (came to me with that wire hanging free)

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ELECTRIC CHOKE (attached) with BROWN WIRE CONNECTED TO ALTERNATOR, now unattached but was driving the car with them connected)

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Glad to be able to help Patrick! Enjoy hearing it run! Soon maybe?

Yes, there is no NSS on a manual equipped Early Bronco. You will perhaps need to make sure that the Red w/blue wire (the START wire) going to the S post of the starter relay/solenoid is fully connected at the other end.
You can test that once the battery is connected and check for 12v on the end with the key in START only.

If it's not, there may be two halves of the Red w/blue wire that need to be connected together, mimicking the NSS function.
I can't remember how Painless does it, so will review the instructions when I have a chance. But knowing Eric (the designer and the writer of the instructions) it's probably spelled out pretty well in the book.

He's a member here too, so may happen upon the discussion and let us know any particulars in that circuit.

For the backup lamps, your stock steering column should have a simple old-school plunger switch clamped (literally clamped with a hose clamp!) to the lower section under the hood near the shift arms.
When the 1st/Reverse arm comes up in reverse it pushes the plunger. Find that switch and it's two terminals and connect your backup lamp wires there and you'll be good to go.

Paul
 

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Pictures! We love pictures... :D

That "brown" wire might actually be an old and faded White w/black wire believe it or not. Or it could have been a replacement years ago. Look for a telltale stripe and you might find it's just old and faded.

The black wire from the distributor will need to be extended most likely, but with the coil that close, you might be able to just crimp/solder a ring terminal to it and connect it to the negative side of the coil as-is.
It would not hurt at this point to inspect the inside of the distributor by removing the cap and then the rotor, to see if that wire is still in good shape inside the distributor.
If it is, great. But if not, now's the time to replace it from beginning to end.

The negative battery cable looks to be a replacement, but it's also a bit older. Might be in good shape still, so use it if it is. But inspect it and if anything looks sketchy at either end, they're cheap so replace it with a good 2ga version. Overkill is good with battery cables!
One thing about the replacement though, is it does not have a provision for a body ground. Ford had one originally in the Bronco, but they often get removed. You can either install your own with this cable by making a length of 10ga or larger cable/wire and connecting it to the fender. Use the old hole facing the engine on the wheel well, or just use one of the bolts holding the starter relay to the wheel well.

You may have seen the grounding discussions here, but if not it's worth talking about before you fire things up.

paul
 

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DirtDonnk and others are a wealth of knowledge and you'll probably get all of your answers here but if not, don't be afraid to call Painless. They have awesome customer service. When I was installing my harness, I spoke to Dennis at Painless a couple of times and I think he had the whole harness memorized. You're almost there!
 
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Thanks for this, Paul. Grounding gets my head spinning, so I just make sure I get good, clean grounds whenever one of my wires allows. Still, is it best practice to add grounds? Ground wherver possible? How do you 'add' ground wires?
 
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Good shout, Fluffy Bunny! Thank you! Everyone raves about Painless CS and I haven't gone that route. I'll give them a try, too.

Also, for anyone wondering, Painless really is all it's cracked up to be. I've never tackled anything like this in my life and I'm like 5 or 6 connections away from being done. It took a while (about 2 weeks) as I was painstakingly careful to get it all right, but it's all there in the book. Would recommend Painless to ANYONE who asks.

Patrick
 

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it almost always takes longer than expected. Even when you don't expect it to be quick! You're almost there!

Yes, with Broncos especially, adding grounds is definitely the best practice. Primarily because even Ford did not include the normal number of grounds on Broncos, and because over 50 years of PO's (the dreaded "previous owners") have removed even the few that were there to begin with.

By the sixties most cars and even trucks were coming with an additional grounding strap/wire between the back of the engine and the firewall.
And even though the frame relied on the minimal connection it had with the body and engine for the small loads such as the fuel sending units, there was no direct ground path for the electricity to follow unless we added one.

So yes, grounds, grounds, grounds...
They are there to simply complete the circuit. Anything not grounded cannot pass the electrons and so they have to find another route back to the battery in order for their load to work. The circuit must be complete.
And with fewer ground paths to choose from, electricity always follows "the path of least resistance" which might not always be where we want it to go. Such as when an old or loose negative battery cable fails and you try to get the starter to crank the engine and the only ground path is some small wire somewhere that immediately melts under the load of the starter motor and maybe even takes other things with it up in smoke.

At the minimum then, we need:
1. The big ground cable to the engine. Overkill is just enough here, so I've gone from saying 6ga is fine (which it is initially) to just recommending going straight to 2ga battery cables just to give more safety factor.
2. A secondary ground from the battery to the body nearby. Can be a fender bolt, a starter relay bolt, the old original location (where yours are) or anywhere on the body of your choosing.
3. A 10ga wire or braided strap from the back of the intake manifold or bell housing over to the body. Using an existing bolt or stud is fine, or adding your own can be beneficial as well. It can then be used on the other side to ground dash circuits.

Bonus entries include:
4. Fender to front core support panel. (for the headlights and turn signals)
5. Body to dashboard.
6. Body to windshield frame.
7. Body to frame in at least one point. This is also something that Ford did later to bond the cab to the frame probably to reduce radio noise interference.
8. Body to hard top. Not really a big deal because most of the attaching bolts are in direct contact with the metal of the roof. But hey, it can't hurt!

Any and all of those can improve the function of your overall electrical system. From making headlights brighter, to the heater motor running faster, to more accurate gauge readings and (a biggie for most of us) less radio noise. Which Broncos are known for being lousy at.

Ford got away with fewer dedicated ground wires because they felt that the body panels being welded together was enough. And when new, it was.
But add 50+ years of rust, paint, and just general corrosion between body parts, and electricity just does not want to flow easily through all the original pathways.
Just ask anyone who's experienced funky turn signals or dim headlights or non-functioning gauges or even windshield wires what they think about nice new grounds.

Paul
 

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Haven't read the full thread, busy day and its a bit of a read. I wanted to pop in and at least subscribe to this so I can catch up later and maybe join in helping get this ironed out.
 

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Thanks for joining the conversation Eric.
Wait… Was that just a polite way of saying I talk a lot? Haha!
Can’t be true!😩🥱
 
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Hi Paul and Eric,

Paul, I've followed your instructions like its gospel, and I'm really close now. I've:

1.) Spliced the white w/ black stripe CHOKE WIRE with the 'brown' wire (I think it was blue 50 years ago) connecting the alternator to where the choke wire goes. White w/black is in the harness, 'brown' wire runs from alternator and they are sharing the same terminal going onto the choke.
2.) Opened the distributor, found relatively clean connections, and connected a small ring terminal to the short black wire coming out of the distributor, attached it to the LEFT side of the coil connection (negative side?). Just hoping to confirm that, if you're looking at the coil head on, the terminal on the left is negative and the one on the right is positive? Sorry, I'm a dope.
3.) Working on securing a standoff so I can install the ballast resistor WITHOUT having to attach it directly to the firewall. Seems like there are some accessory options for this in my Painless package? Eric, is that right?
4.) Cut a piece of the red w/green stripe wire and spliced it with the Painless brown harness wire, attached it to the right side of the ballast resistor. The other end of this red w/green stripe wire was then given a ring terminal and added to the RIGHT side of the coil (positive side?).
5.) Used the rest of the red w/green stripe wire attached to the Painless harness, added a terminal, and connected it to the left side of the ballast resistor (still worried about which side is negative and which is positive).
6.) Still working on finding those two small tabs for the reverse switch. I lose sleep nightmaring about that connection, but I'll continue to dig around down there.
7.) Shopping now for grounding wires to mop this whole thing up.

I can see the finish line from where I am and I'm so thankful for your thoughtfulness and your help with all of this.

Patrick
 
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Addendum:

7.) Ordered the Painless Performance 40107 - Painless Performance Battery Cable Kits (1 gauge wires) AND the Ron Francis Wiring GW55 Deluxe Simplex Ground Wiring Kit.

Will obviously wait to these arrive and are installed before firing up this battery for the first time.

And should I have a trusted fire extinguisher close by? How worried should I be?
Patrick
 

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And should I have a trusted fire extinguisher close by? How worried should I be?
Patrick
Just like Ford Prefect was told to always carry a towel... Always have a good fire extinguisher nearby at the ready!(y)

Paul
 

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1.) Spliced the white w/ black stripe CHOKE WIRE with the 'brown' wire (I think it was blue 50 years ago) connecting the alternator to where the choke wire goes. White w/black is in the harness, 'brown' wire runs from alternator and they are sharing the same terminal going onto the choke.
Is there any reason you're re-using any of the old wires? The back of the alternator is fully covered by what's in the new harness, so it's not really needed to splice new to old when you can just put the new all the way beginning to end.

2.) Opened the distributor, found relatively clean connections, and connected a small ring terminal to the short black wire coming out of the distributor, attached it to the LEFT side of the coil connection (negative side?). Just hoping to confirm that, if you're looking at the coil head on, the terminal on the left is negative and the one on the right is positive? Sorry, I'm a dope.
There is no left and right on a round coil. There might be from the factory, but over 50 years the coil could easily have been rotated, or replaced with a coil that did not share the same orientation as the original.
There is always (or at least there should always be) a marking next to each of the two terminals. There is a dash (-) for negative and a plus sign (+) for positive. Since orientation is key, it's always marked unless there is no other way to attach. Such as with the later Dura Spark coils where the horseshoe connector only went one way.
But even then, there were still markings if I'm not mistaken. Just as a confirmation.

3.) Working on securing a standoff so I can install the ballast resistor WITHOUT having to attach it directly to the firewall. Seems like there are some accessory options for this in my Painless package? Eric, is that right?
Don't remember any, but Eric can confirm for sure.
Plenty of methods if nothing is included.

4.) Cut a piece of the red w/green stripe wire and spliced it with the Painless brown harness wire, attached it to the right side of the ballast resistor. The other end of this red w/green stripe wire was then given a ring terminal and added to the RIGHT side of the coil (positive side?).
Again, no left and right unless we have pics. The only verbal method of describing that everyone will know is "input side" and "output side" where input is coming in from the harness and output is connected to the coil.
Did the Brown wire not reach your chosen location for the resistor?
Correct for the Red w/green coming "out" of the resistor going to the coil. However the Brown wire needs to be there too. NOT to the input side because it's purpose is then defeated by the resistor.
The Brown wire essentially is used to bypass the resistor so that the coil will always receive full voltage during START.

5.) Used the rest of the red w/green stripe wire attached to the Painless harness, added a terminal, and connected it to the left side of the ballast resistor (still worried about which side is negative and which is positive).
No negative or positive. No positive or ground. Only positive voltage passing through a resistor from one end to the other.
The resistor is not the load in this case (that's the coil itself) it's just a part of the circuit designed to resist flow and by doing that, lower the voltage from system level (12-14 volts) down to something that a points type ignition can handle in the 6-9 volt range.
Coils with points type triggers were developed in the age of 6v electrical systems and will either overheat the coil or burn out the points if run on full voltage all the time.
Hence the resistor.

6.) Still working on finding those two small tabs for the reverse switch. I lose sleep nightmaring about that connection, but I'll continue to dig around down there.
Lack of sleep is not good for electrical work!
Take a picture of the lower end of the steering column near the firewall. Not the shaft necessarily, but the housing of the column itself. If the switch is still there we should be able to see it. Often the switch has been removed, or more often has fallen apart and is no longer in place. If that's the case you will still see the mounting bracket unless it too was removed.
If it's all gone, you'll just have to figure out a new one. The switches are available, but not sure about the bracket.
Pretty basic though, so not impossible to fabricate if you can't find a new or used one.

7.) Shopping now for grounding wires to mop this whole thing up.
You can make your own too. Just some lengths of 10ga black wire bought at the local parts store will get the job done.
Most do not even require 10ga, but since some are better served with that large size wire, might as well do them all and not waste good wire or pay for additional rolls of smaller wire.
A 10ga wire can handle just about everything you throw at it except the starter motor. That's the job of the main battery cables.

I can see the finish line from where I am and I'm so thankful for your thoughtfulness and your help with all of this.
In the immortal words of Han Solo... "Great! Don't get cocky kid!"
That finish line might still be the light at the end of the tunnel with the freight train coming down the track!

Just kidding. It does sound like you're almost there. Even the fire extinguisher might not be needed. But it's still a "best practice" when working on stuff.
It won't stop a wire from melting (it happens before you can grab the extinguisher anyway) but it might save other stuff.

And speaking of grounds, smoking wires and other stuff.... The metal stud sticking out of the back of the ignition switch is NOT A GROUND!!!!
You probably already knew that from the manual, but lots of people have still put ground wires there and that just ends up being very ugly.

Have fun!

Paul
 

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Hi Paul and Eric,

Paul, I've followed your instructions like its gospel, and I'm really close now. I've:

1.) Spliced the white w/ black stripe CHOKE WIRE with the 'brown' wire (I think it was blue 50 years ago) connecting the alternator to where the choke wire goes. White w/black is in the harness, 'brown' wire runs from alternator and they are sharing the same terminal going onto the choke.
2.) Opened the distributor, found relatively clean connections, and connected a small ring terminal to the short black wire coming out of the distributor, attached it to the LEFT side of the coil connection (negative side?). Just hoping to confirm that, if you're looking at the coil head on, the terminal on the left is negative and the one on the right is positive? Sorry, I'm a dope.
3.) Working on securing a standoff so I can install the ballast resistor WITHOUT having to attach it directly to the firewall. Seems like there are some accessory options for this in my Painless package? Eric, is that right?
4.) Cut a piece of the red w/green stripe wire and spliced it with the Painless brown harness wire, attached it to the right side of the ballast resistor. The other end of this red w/green stripe wire was then given a ring terminal and added to the RIGHT side of the coil (positive side?).
5.) Used the rest of the red w/green stripe wire attached to the Painless harness, added a terminal, and connected it to the left side of the ballast resistor (still worried about which side is negative and which is positive).
6.) Still working on finding those two small tabs for the reverse switch. I lose sleep nightmaring about that connection, but I'll continue to dig around down there.
7.) Shopping now for grounding wires to mop this whole thing up.

I can see the finish line from where I am and I'm so thankful for your thoughtfulness and your help with all of this.

Patrick

Good deal Patrick.. will be nice to get some enjoyment out of all that work
 

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That finish line might still be the light at the end of the tunnel with the freight train coming down the track!

Yeah true.. cause there's always something that come backs to haunt us We'll think Positive thoughts tho haha
 
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