Manual choke mount at carb ?

[Aptosgrown]

Need a little help figuring out how to mount the choke cable at the carb. PO had a non original carb and I swapped it out for a stock 2 brl a couple years ago.

I believe the carb is a motorcraft that I put on, and there are 2 threaded holes in the carb on the passenger side. I recall seeing a picture at some point of a manual choke cable hooked up to a stock 2brl but I am having trouble finding the part. Does anyone know where I can source this?

I would also be interested to know if there is specific spot that the choke cable was suppose to go through the firewall?

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Redbark]

Here's what I had for my 68 before I tore it down. I have no idea if this is stock or not.

 

[Aptosgrown]

Redbark ~ Thanks for the pics that helps! That mount for the carb on the choke is exactly what I am looking for and looks right from what I recall.

routing looks interesting, super helpful and worst case I can make a mount pretty simply it looks like if they really are unavailable, haven't been able to find one from a vendor yet

 

[Redbark]

Hey, glad to help. Attached is another pic that shows the cable routing to be the same as mine.

Redbark ~ Thanks for the pics that helps! That mount for the carb on the choke is exactly what I am looking for and looks right from what I recall.

routing looks interesting, super helpful and worst case I can make a mount pretty simply it looks like if they really are unavailable, haven't been able to find one from a vendor yet

 

[DirtDonk]

That's an interesting hole location. Looks just right to use one of those foam insulator/seal thingies like used on the heater control and speedo cable and such: https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/category/s?keyword=firewall+seal

Paul

 

[Aptosgrown]

Paul - thanks for your response, I will be in need of some of those in the future.

In regard to the bracket I think I am just going to create one. Best I can find is this kit https://www.ebay.com/i/302145888869?chn=ps

I need the piece that has the dog leg bend, but there's no way I'm payin' $35 for that piece of time.

Thanks for all the input guys!

 

[Redbark]

Do you need some close up pics of the brackets?

Paul - thanks for your response, I will be in need of some of those in the future.

In regard to the bracket I think I am just going to create one. Best I can find is this kit https://www.ebay.com/i/302145888869?chn=ps

I need the piece that has the dog leg bend, but there's no way I'm payin' $35 for that piece of time.

Thanks for all the input guys!

 

[jckkys]

Aptosgrown. What year is your Bronco? Ford changed the manual choke mechanism over the years. Redbark's carb is a '71-'74. Broncos stopped using manual chokes in '68. An EB 2100 with a manual choke would look like thi;https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOLITE-2...308093&hash=item4b63e6ca3a:g:ELgAAOSwVRxcz0xL. There is no automatic to manual choke conversion for 2100s. The conversion kit you sight on ebey is made for Holleys and won't work on Autolite/Motorcraft 2100s. The only way to put a manual choked 2100 on your 289 is to buy one made for that here;https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOLITE-2...308093&hash=item4b63e6ca3a:g:ELgAAOSwVRxcz0xL.

 

[Redbark]

I've done some digging, and based on the code stamped on the side of the base (OP AJ), my specific carb is a replacement carb for 1968-69 Ford trucks.
https://www.carburetor-parts.com/Ford-2100_ep_577.html

It has a 1.08 venturi so should work fine.

If you need a carb, this one on ebay is an actual Bronco manual choke carb from a 67, although it has just a 1.02 venturi:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Ford-Bronco-289-Motorcraft-F2-2100-2bbl-carburetor-C7TF-V-for-rebuilding/202673047943?hash=item2f30414987:g:kDQAAOSwGdtc0fw-

Aptosgrown. What year is your Bronco? Ford changed the manual choke mechanism over the years. Redbark's carb is a '71-'74. Broncos stopped using manual chokes in '68. An EB 2100 with a manual choke would look like thi;https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOLITE-2...308093&hash=item4b63e6ca3a:g:ELgAAOSwVRxcz0xL. There is no automatic to manual choke conversion for 2100s. The conversion kit you sight on ebey is made for Holleys and won't work on Autolite/Motorcraft 2100s. The only way to put a manual choked 2100 on your 289 is to buy one made for that here;https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOLITE-2...308093&hash=item4b63e6ca3a:g:ELgAAOSwVRxcz0xL.

 

[jckkys]

Redbark the sight you linked to seems to only have the tag numbers, not those stamped on the base. All to often, the tags were removed or simply left off. Your OP AJ has the top cover of a '71 or later version of the 2100. That's when Ford started casting Motorcraft on them. The '68s were Autolites.

 

[Redbark]

Redbark the sight you linked to seems to only have the tag numbers, not those stamped on the base. All to often, the tags were removed or simply left off. Your OP AJ has the top cover of a '71 or later version of the 2100. That's when Ford started casting Motorcraft on them. The '68s were Autolites.

At the risk of being pedantic here, I believe the code stamped in the base is within the tag code sequence.

To support this idea, I have a another carb that still has the tag, which is D0BF C. The stamp code on that carb is 0B C.

I do not have the tag for the carb in the pictures I posted. The stamp code is 0P AJ. Working backwards from the stamp code, and looking at the code listings on the website, it seems logical that the tag code for my carb would have been D0PF AJ.

I believe the "0" in the sequence is the year, so both of these carbs are 1970 carbs. Based on the carb website, my untagged carb is a replacement for 1968-69 Ford trucks.

Further to support this "stamp code within a tag code" theory, the ebay carb I linked to has a tag code of C7TF V. In one of the pics you can barely see the stamp code as 7T V. The carb website says code C7TF-V is suitable for for 1966-69 Broncos. I understand that the 7 in the code makes it a 1967 card.

Of course, I could be full of shite.

 

[Aptosgrown]

Redbark - I would be stoked on some up close picture. Thanks for all the info. I removed a high performance carb the PO had. My bronco is a '69 and we put on a rebuilt of what the book called for, looks exactly like yours and it runs great. I just need to fab that little mount that holds the cable to the carb, just the little piece that has the two screws and looks like a dog leg and my choke will be in business

Through building the bronco I have found parts in it from 68-70 that were used for it. The most complex build ended up being my steering column which had parts from all three years and from what I could tell were all from the factory build. Talk about a frustrating manual column build!

In regard to my carb, and subsequent dash setup. I have put the dash back together same as I took it apart. Ii feel I am lucky the choke cable reaches as it is located to the LEFT of the steering wheel on mine. I don't believe the PO altered the layout of my dash as the harness comes right to all the correct switches relative to their location. My dash is laid out with the the choke, throttle, and fuel tank gauge selector all to the left of the steering wheel

 

[jckkys]

The base code does have the year and the last 2 letters, but tag has more info and rebuilding kits are listed by the tag ID. Mustang Tek used to have both on their sight, and some were quite different. The tag revealed the engine, vehicle model, transmission type, and more. I have a 4100 with a very similar base stamp to your 2100. Both end with AJ. I know Ford only used 4100s through '68 and then only on 428 PIs so there was none in 1970. If the base stamping is all you have, extrapolating that is a good idea.
Be pedantic all you like. Fear not. I do find, inserting quotes obnoxious.
The fact remains your carb may be a replacement for a '68, but it was made in '71-'73. If the OP wants his engine to look original, a '68 comes closer.

 

[Redbark]

Aptosgrown - Here are your pics.

 

[Pa PITT]

... Is that part available or do you just have to fins old ones.
. I'm thinking now one make it any longer . Am I correct.

 

[Aptosgrown]

Redbark - Thank you so much, when you said close up I wasn't expecting that. Very helpful!!

Pa Pitt - haven't been able to find the piece itself

 

[Redbark]

Redbark - Thank you so much, when you said close up I wasn't expecting that. Very helpful!!

Pa Pitt - haven't been able to find the piece itself

Glad to help!

 

[Aptosgrown]

Ha, decided to give Nick (Delconick) a call at northeastclassicfordparts. He knew exactly what I was talking about.

his words "that bracket has the same value as the carburetor itself" no wonder I can't find one anywhere lol. Those that have 'em, the bracket that is, hold onto that little piece of gold!

 

[jckkys]

The cable bracket is one of many parts you'll never find individually. Here's https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOLITE-2100-FORD-1-23-TWO-BARREL-CARBURETOR-WITH-RARE-MANUAL-CH a good source of the cable bracket and several other manual choke parts for 2100s. I buy whole carbs for small parts included regularly. This one is cheap because some parts of the manual choke mechanism are missing. I'm assuming you have rest but if not it's still a good deal, if just for the cable bracket.

 

[jckkys]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOLITE-2...308093&hash=item4b6448b90f:g:3UsAAOSwlMxc2FqM The link didn't work I'll try again.