My tail gate repair. Don't laugh!

[HoldMyPocket]

you really have no business in welding these parts to your frame. instead of spending money on welding sticks, practice metal and all that shit, take it to a shop and let someone do it...

 

[360 4V]

I am currently looking for a proffessional welder to do my chassis work.

 

[chandaman_05]

Good advice for you:
1) buy biggest sledge hammer you can find
2) smash your welders
3) smash bronco
4) sell all as scrap
5)take scrap money and buy a jeep:-*

Cmon now! No need to treat a fellow Bronco lover like that!

Just keep practicing with scrap and eventually you'll get it. But like others have said, get a professional welder to do the chassis work. Not worth the risk!

 

[360 4V]

I had a Jeep and in stock form they are junk. Underpowered and fragile parts. You would have to get a V8, transmission and transfer case from a real truck swapped in. You need dana 60s front and rear. You need a real roll cage fabricated and welded by a someone who is skilled. Forget about getting a TJ if you are not a good welder. All the stock parts and brackets have to go.

The Bronco has less fabrication because it was well engineered by Ford in the begining.

So before you step out your front door in the morining you had better have a good professional welder to repair the broken jalopys called new cars.


My welder who is going to fix my jalopys is going to have to weld the EPA door shut. Then we will have jobs and money, not funny money, to buy real cars not jalopys that we are pigeon-holed into.

If I get a professional to weld my chassis up and I get my welding certification for future use will I not be pigeon-holed anymore? I am building a Bronco because it is better than any comparable manufactured today.

I am going to get a short wheel base F-350 4x4 with a 6.2L gasoline powered V8. I am going to run it into the ground for ten or twenty years.

 

[76Broncofromhell]

I had a Jeep and in stock form they are junk. Underpowered and fragile parts. You would have to get a V8, transmission and transfer case from a real truck swapped in. You need dana 60s front and rear. You need a real roll cage fabricated and welded by a someone who is skilled. Forget about getting a TJ if you are not a good welder. All the stock parts and brackets have to go.

The Bronco has less fabrication because it was well engineered by Ford in the begining.

So before you step out your front door in the morining you had better have a good professional welder to repair the broken jalopys called new cars.


My welder who is going to fix my jalopys is going to have to weld the EPA door shut. Then we will have jobs and money, not funny money, to buy real cars not jalopys that we are pigeon-holed into.

If I get a professional to weld my chassis up and I get my welding certification for future use will I not be pigeon-holed anymore? I am building a Bronco because it is better than any comparable manufactured today.

I am going to get a short wheel base F-350 4x4 with a 6.2L gasoline powered V8. I am going to run it into the ground for ten or twenty years.

Good god what the hell are you talking about. I feel like I'm listening to Lenny describing the farm to George, shortly before George shoots him in the head.

New cars are not garbage. A stock Rubicon is built stronger than a stock Bronco, with more horsepower, torque and vastly improved streetability. You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. You can turn a TJ into a hell of a rock crawler without ever picking up a welder. There is something to be said about aftermarket support with bolt-on parts.

Second of all, you're thinking that you are going to make a boat load of money as a certified welder? Are you joking? Given your current welding acumen, you may want to stick with jobs that require you to ask, "Would you like fries with that?"

I've read your posts and I sincerely hope that you are just joking, similar to BadAssMike's posts years ago.

If not, my offer stands to prevent you from contaminating the gene pool.

 

[dube]

I have been certified in welding. For me it was easy with 36 years of welding under my belt. It's not easy. For most guys. For you impossible!!!!! You don't listen, you talk out your ass, your young. You have A.D.D and you don't pay attention to detail. And you like to here your self talk. 360 your just making an ass out of your self. Stop this madness.

 

[sicaz66]

Bassassmike was the man! Only guy I know that shoved fish up his ass. Talk about hardcore! 360 is a good guy,just young and impatient. He did ignore my advice though.told him to stay away from the Internet until he had REAL questions that someone could help with.%)

 

[sellitall]

We need to have this thread locked. It's not going anywhere. Let's just put it down like you would a 15 year old mutt.

:-X:-X:-X:-X:-X:-X

 

[The Bronco Kid]

Good advice for you:
1) buy biggest sledge hammer you can find
2) smash your welders
3) smash bronco
4) sell all as scrap
5)take scrap money and buy a jeep:-*

Hey now, let me chime in here:

1) No need for the sarcasm and bashings I'm seeing here. Jesus christ this guy is obviously loves broncos or else he wouldn't have taken on this massive task that he has in front of him. He'll get better as he goes for sure. How is the above quote at all productive?

2) That being said, now your limits, especially when it comes to safety (frame). I am no master welder either, I bought my mig three years ago and practiced until my welds started coming along. I taught myself for the most part with some help from members here (although I don't recommend following my path). I would never attempt to weld my frame. Minor body repair like your tailgate, hey if you're comfortable with the fact that your bronco will never be a show car then who cares. At least you can say you tried and DID it yourself. Get a MIG for body parts, it will mke your life alot easier. Welding classes are a great idea for sure and will only help you in the long run. I was even more excited to jump into my bronco than you but I wish I took a little longer before I started trying my hand at body work. I thought my Bronco would take me one summer, I'm going on 3 yrs.

Keep practicing! Ask around if any friends or family know anyone that welds and just try and havem come by to give you some tips. Everyone takes pay in beer. ;D

In the end, this is a long post but just understand where everyone is coming from, if you're struggling welding, put the project on hold and get a better feel for it. Everyone else, be helpful and give advice but if you're just going to drop bombs on this guys hard work get a life!

 

[LOVNBRONCOS]

360 what state are you in

 

[xcntrk]

I think this is simply a matter of not having the right tools for the job. Use a decent MIG welder with shielding gas (especially if you're welding outdoors) that has enough amperage to tackle the thickness of your material on first pass. You need enough power to actually penetrate the steel not just lay a bead over top. Also always clean the material before welding with a wire wheel, flapper disk, etc. I clean pre-weld and run over it again post weld for paint prep.

For cutting, use a plasma cutter with guide on thick stuff. Cut off wheels work great but should be limited to smaller cuts that don't exceed the wheel size.

I'm serious about the welder, you don't need to be a pro just use the right tools. I took my new MillerMatic 211 straight out of the box, set it up, used "auto" mode where you simply tell it the size of wire and thickness of material and the box automagically dials in speed and amperage to use. I then laid the practice beads you see below. They're not perfect and the scrap wasn't clean, but not bad either for first bead from the box.

 

[dube]

The millermatic 211 is the hottest ticket for beginners to start welding. The machine is idiot proof. I have had all kinds of miller welders, and picked this one up for my self. Great price at $1100 out the door. Mild steel run it with 25/75 gas and your on your way. What's nice is the dual power plugs. 120/330 volt. Plasma, kinda spendy. But fast great tool for the shop. 360. Focus on one thing at a time. In this thread there is like 10 or 15 different threads.

 

[jasonv]

It's not that I'm a bad welder it's just that I am great with the grinder....

 

[Devin]

360 what state are you in

I am guessing that the state he is in is:

Insanity.

 

[Wyflyer]

One thing about learning welding, people get better, few get worse