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Outside mirrors and door handles;

markatherton

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I am very frustrated with the quality of the outside door mirrors and door handles; I am putting these on very expensive vehicles and customers are unhappy; The mirrors start pitting in less than a year; The door handles are so difficult to open they practically break your thumb. We have spent hours trying to adjust them to no avail. I have also had trouble with the deluxe FORD grill letters pitting in a very short period of time. Has anyone found an alternative supplier they are happy with or are they all selling the same ones? Mark in San Diego, Beach City Broncos;
 

chuddy

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I feel your pain on the door handles, specifically. The best ones I have purchased are from Toms, they work really well. Every other set I've used has been awful.
 

f2502011

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I am very frustrated with the quality of the outside door mirrors and door handles; I am putting these on very expensive vehicles and customers are unhappy; The mirrors start pitting in less than a year; The door handles are so difficult to open they practically break your thumb. We have spent hours trying to adjust them to no avail. I have also had trouble with the deluxe FORD grill letters pitting in a very short period of time. Has anyone found an alternative supplier they are happy with or are they all selling the same ones? Mark in San Diego, Beach City Broncos;
Where have you been getting them from?
 

serial car restorer

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I recently bought a door mirror and pair of door handles from an eBay seller. They are all ACP brand parts, from Taiwan as we expect these days. The chrome finish looks fine for now, we'll have to wait to see how it holds up over time.

As for the handles, I only have the driver's side installed so far (passenger door isn't hung yet). After much cleaning and lubing the original latch, along with a fair amount of time adjusting the length of the link rod, I have the button effort mostly reasonable. It still requires a firm push, but nothing that will pull a muscle in your thumb. Time will tell if I can get the other side that good also.
 
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bigmuddy

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My issues with the new mirrors besides pitting is the pivot getting sloppy in short order. I have two that look almost new and you shut the door and the mirror is out of whack again. Finally said screw it and went to a single glass window and a jeep type mirror for a newer TJ.
 

AZ73

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This might help your door handle issue. A lot of the repo handles have a squared off pin which digs into the lever. The factory pin is rounded. Scott Drake makes replacement handles that have the correct rounded pin.


I had my old mirrors re-chromed by the only shop in the country grandfathered to use the old quality process (Located in Washington State $$$) because the drivers side was a remote and no one made a replacement. I had to disassemble the cables to take the mirror out of the housing and I rebuilt the cables using a repo Mustang remote mirror as a parts donor.
 

ba123

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This company makes some really nice stuff, although it is Priced REALLY high. I did get their black headlight rings and love them, but man, were they pricey for those simple headlight rings.

Here are their door handles:
https://fatfender.com/collections/b...1977-ford-bronco-billet-aluminum-door-handles

I have thought about it as I worry how the ones I got will do over time.

The mirrors I got were from United Pacific and they seem pretty good so far. Not sure if these are different than the vendors or not.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BFZNGP4D/?tag=classicbroncos-20
 

SpudBoy

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This might help your door handle issue. A lot of the repo handles have a squared off pin which digs into the lever. The factory pin is rounded. Scott Drake makes replacement handles that have the correct rounded pin.


I had my old mirrors re-chromed by the only shop in the country grandfathered to use the old quality process (Located in Washington State $$$) because the drivers side was a remote and no one made a replacement. I had to disassemble the cables to take the mirror out of the housing and I rebuilt the cables using a repo Mustang remote mirror as a parts donor.
Just asking here as the issue came up in this thread ... I have a '76 with remote driver's mirror, which functions and the chrome is thankfully OK. However, the mirror itself is a bit "loose" in that it will not stay adjusted where I can see and actually need it. Excess vibration (what Bronco doesn't have that) and even air flow above maybe 50-55 MPH and the mirror inside the frame shifts. Any help or hints? I have even considered converting to a stock non-remote, as seeing the idiots trying to run me off the road is more important than originality.
 

Dylan_Shaffer

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Where can you get good chrome done these days? South of the border maybe? Mirrors I got started pitting within a couple months, my handles are original and the chrome from back then seems to hold up much better. Bronco sits outside 100% of the time about a mile from the beach. If there’s demand it could be worth getting a group order together to send a bunch of these mirrors and handles to get rechromed at a quality shop.
 

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I had my old mirrors re-chromed by the only shop in the country grandfathered to use the old quality process (Located in Washington State $$$) because the drivers side was a remote and no one made a replacement. I had to disassemble the cables to take the mirror out of the housing and I rebuilt the cables using a repo Mustang remote mirror as a parts donor.
where is this chrome shop in Washington?
 

AZ73

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Where can you get good chrome done these days? South of the border maybe? Mirrors I got started pitting within a couple months, my handles are original and the chrome from back then seems to hold up much better. Bronco sits outside 100% of the time about a mile from the beach. If there’s demand it could be worth getting a group order together to send a bunch of these mirrors and handles to get rechromed at a quality shop.
 

AZ73

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Just asking here as the issue came up in this thread ... I have a '76 with remote driver's mirror, which functions and the chrome is thankfully OK. However, the mirror itself is a bit "loose" in that it will not stay adjusted where I can see and actually need it. Excess vibration (what Bronco doesn't have that) and even air flow above maybe 50-55 MPH and the mirror inside the frame shifts. Any help or hints? I have even considered converting to a stock non-remote, as seeing the idiots trying to run me off the road is more important than originality.

I'll talk about the mirror housing and the mirror itself just for reference for others.

The mirror housing is tightened with the screw that's on the back of the arm that attached to the door. Either the screw is loose or you're F'd because it's held tight against the arm with a ball mount. If you over tighten the screw you can crack the casing of the mirror housing that the ball seats in. See the red arrow.


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The mirror itself actually rotates around another little ball that plugs the hole the piece that mounts the housing to the arm went through.

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The 2 little sticks sticking up on either side of the hole are bump stops for the mirror. The mirror itself is held in position by the spring in the remote lever. My spring and remote housing was was just old and worn out, and where the arrow is was cracked on the back side which didn't help the spring either.

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When I went to disassemble, the cheap pot metal just crumbled. which is one of the reasons I purchased a repo mustang remote mirror, so I could use the controller (spring and housing) as a donor new piece. I removed the controller and tossed the rest of the mirror.

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It was complicated to remove the old cables and correctly attach them to the new controller (although each of the 3 cables was marked at the factory with a different color on the tip). I had to cut the little brass bushing off the ends, thread the cables through the housing and the controller, then use a special tool to crimp new tiny brass bushings on the ends. The repo controller worked out great. The spring is tight which keeps the mirror in place, and it perfectly fit the old bezel nut and handle that I had re-chromed with the mirror.

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That's the long answer. For you it's most likely a worn out spring in the controller. I'm not sure how you can tighten it up without replacing it like I did. You may be able to somehow shim your spring at the bottom. If you're local to the Phoenix area I'm more than happy to help you graft a repo controller on since I had to buy the tool and a bag full of bushings. The mirrors are rare so don't toss it if you swap it out.

Sometimes North East Ford Parts has a used remote mirror for sale (they have one listed now for $149) but the pitting is really bad. They always seem to be which is why I just rebuilt and re-chromed mine.
 
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