Problem rebuilding PS box

[jms5580]

I've got a '75 that I'm not sure came with PS. During disassembly of the box, a bunch of shiny metal rollers fell out, some in pieces. Now that I've ALMOST got everything apart, and I've seen the kit, it looks like one of my bearings for the sector shaft blew up, specifically the upper. My diagram for the kit only shows 1 bearing. However, I can't even get said bearings out. Tried gently tapping with a screwdriver and I only ended up busting the lip on the bad bearing. Ideas? I would hate to send this thing out.

 

[turbotim2]

Is the diagram you are looking at the one that came with the kit? If so, I rebuilt mine with a kit from JBG and the diagram was wrong. I think I have a PDF showing the correct diagram but I'll have to check when i get home.

As far as the bearings, I used a socket big enough to fit through the hole and catch the lip and drove them out with an extension and hammer. They don't come out easily.

 

[jms5580]

Up or down? I'm in the process now, pending rain.

 

[turbotim2]

I think down, it has been a couple of years since I did it but I believe they both went out the same way. As I recall there was a lip that the upper bearing was seated against so it only went one way out.

 

[Explorer]

Here's another diagram/pic if it helps any.

 

[jms5580]

Anyone else with any experience? I'd hate to go to town on this thing and be going the wrong way. Not that I don't trust ya Tim!

 

[Viperwolf1]

I can't remember which way they go in/out but I didn't have much trouble figuring them out when I looked at it. Use a brass punch and knock them out then get some new ones. Here's what they look like.

 

[jms5580]

Only reason I'm so concerned is I don't have much surface left on the top bearing, if any. A friend suggested I take a dremel to it in an effort to collapse one side. As long as I stay away from sealing surfaces, I should be ok.

 

[Viperwolf1]

It's gonna be tough to get a dremel in there.

 

[jms5580]

I don't see many other options. Maybe try heating it up and bending it in?

 

[turbotim2]

I doubt you would be able to bend it. I was in a similar boat, I had broken the lip of the bearing and all of the rollers had fallen out before I tried the socket. A brass punch like VW suggested is also a good choice. The diagram that explorer posted is the same one that came with my kit which is similar to but not the same as the bronco box as the bronco box has a much longer sector shaft with two bearings instead of one.

 

[jms5580]

Good to know. I'll give it another shot today.

 

[86Horn_EB_77]

Can't remove top sector shaft bearing !!!

OK - I searched 15 thread steering box threads - and I didn't see an answer to this one.

I'm rebuilding my Saginaw PS box - and I can't get the top sector shaft (pitman arm shaft) bearing out of the box.

The bronco Saginaw has two Torrington BH-2020 needle bearings - one upper and one lower. All the Saginiaw rebuild kits only show one needle bearing - the Bronco needs two as the sector shaft is longer.

I made the BwoncoHowie bearing tool - then used a socket and hammer to drive out the lower bearing - no problem.

The top bearing is STUCK. There also appears to be a spacer behind it (below it) that is ALSO STUCK. I'm trying drive both of them down the bore and out of the box - but they won't move. There's a lip at the top of the bore - so I know they don't come out that way - they must go DOWN.

I've managed to knock the race and needles out of the top bearing - so there's very little lip left to catch a punch on. I think I'm down to use a dremel and small cut off wheel to slice the outer race in half and try to bend it and collapse it in the bore.

There also appears to be a SPACER below the top bearing (and above) the bottom bearing - that also needs to be driven out with the top bearing. HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS SPACER? No one mentions it - and it really seems to be stuck in the bore. I don't want to go crazy with a dremel and a die grinder (and ruin my rare PS box casting) but I need to get the remains of this top bearing OUT.

Any ideas? THANKS IN ADVANCE.

 

[benkokes]

have you check out my writeup?

http://www.kokes.net/bronco/powr_str.htm

 

[86Horn_EB_77]

Top sector shaft bearing mystery solved !

OK,

First thanks for the link, Ben - one of your pics shows me how far I need to tap in the top sector shaft bearing (leave it just a little below the surface of the housing). Your teflon ring boiling trick will also be useful - thanks again.

But Ben... why are you flipping me off in that first pic? And that is one cool 2006 vintage flip phone in those pics too...

Here's a link to another Saginaw box rebuild on Pirate - lots of pics:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=570869


Now (so hopefully someone can find this in a search) THE TOP SECTOR SHAFT BEARING COMES OUT OF THE TOP OF THE BOX. There was a bunch of corrosion/peen over mental at the top of the sector bore that made me think the bearing had to driven DOWN - but it must come of the TOP of the box !

I was able to get a friends porting tool/rasp down into the bore and carefully cut a slot in the outer bearing race - then pry the remains out. That clearly showed that there was a bearing pocket in the housing. So again - the bottom sector needle bearing taps in from the bottom. And the top sector bearing taps in from the top.

Now I just gotta drill and tap the box for a ram and use all these web instructions to re-assemble it.