rare find

[Trikar]

Back when they were almost new, nobody thought of Tigers as being super valuable in the future. So if someone got a good deal on a wrecked Tiger and then never got around to fixing it, or just bought it for parts and the engine, I could see it finding it's way into another vehicle. Even back in that time frame.
...

Another potential source if into on the engine would be the Tiger clubs, or forums. They've been digging into this stuff longer than we've been digging into Bronco lore, so may have a line on information from the plant in England. Worth checking out for sure.
Maybe they can open up a world of info just from the engine tag.

Paul

It would be super cool, but not from england!
Again, too much clues!!!

 

[Trikar]

you buy it and you do as you like !!! BUT

U13 and yours is a super early one should only be restored to its original condition ..... OR DONT DO ANYTHING TO IT AT ALL !!!

just repair whats needed to make it safe to drive and Stop !

remember me:
you can have it in any colors as long as it is black!

 

[okie4570]

Sunbeam used to put ford v8 s in there tigers when they made during that time
The first ones were 260s and then 289s

Seen my first 260 this last weekend actually in a 63' Falcon. It was parked next to us at a trap shoot, pretty sharp car. Had 260 V8 badges on the front fenders.

 

[FRANKO289]

remember me:
you can have it in any colors as long as it is black!

1, that was 100 years ago

& 2, the value in U13 roadsters are
1, restored to original
2, in the last few years people pay to have them as is ... ALL original including original paint ! they are only once original !!

from what I know ...

Germany and Austria got quite a few broncos
France Portugal & Spain 7-8
Swiss 3-4
Greece a few
island .... pffff my guess is at least 50

now Africa ..... everyone is guessing ... but we know of a few u13's that live since newish there !

 

[stevew]

All this is quite fascinating .... but so far just a heck of alot of speculation . So IF it was ( speculating again ) a very early V-8 swap ... where did the correct length intermediate housing come from ? Or does the valve covers push up against the firewall like swaps without the correct trans/intermediate housing do ? What does the code on the trans read ? There's actually is alot needed for a correct V-8 swap ..... shift rods are a different length .... does it use the 6 cyl. cable throttle ? What is used for a radiator ? 6 cyl. & V-8 are totally different & mount different . If it was done in Europe then I doubt the correct stock parts would have been easily available so it should be fairly easy to see if it was done "correct " , as in factory or somebody used what was available . Trikar, you've shown you've really done your homework on '66's but if you haven't had a fair amount of "eye's on " experience with '66's then you could be missing what's obvious to those who have . Sure be nice to see detailed pics of this one . Oh yeah ... keep it stock if it's in any kind of decent shape !

 

[Trikar]

All this is quite fascinating .... but so far just a heck of alot of speculation . So IF it was ( speculating again ) a very early V-8 swap ... where did the correct length intermediate housing come from ? Or does the valve covers push up against the firewall like swaps without the correct trans/intermediate housing do ? What does the code on the trans read ? There's actually is alot needed for a correct V-8 swap ..... shift rods are a different length .... does it use the 6 cyl. cable throttle ? What is used for a radiator ? 6 cyl. & V-8 are totally different & mount different . If it was done in Europe then I doubt the correct stock parts would have been easily available so it should be fairly easy to see if it was done "correct " , as in factory or somebody used what was available . Trikar, you've shown you've really done your homework on '66's but if you haven't had a fair amount of "eye's on " experience with '66's then you could be missing what's obvious to those who have . Sure be nice to see detailed pics of this one . Oh yeah ... keep it stock if it's in any kind of decent shape !

Ok, i'm agree with you, lot of speculation, not enough time on the car and little real knowledge of EB from my part.

here a photo of the engine bay, notice the bake work!
what the photo tells you?

 

[okie4570]

66' year only fender to firewall brace in place. Either the heater was removed or it's a heater delete. Looks like a 260 engine to me?

Edit: Not positive enough on the 260 to be sure, after reading, 260 had 5 bolt bell housing, vs 6 bolt for 289/302 though.

 

[Broncobowsher]

Photo tells a lot
Air cleaner is period correct for a car, but not correct for a Bronco.
Red engine, someone got some red paint for some weird reason. I see the waterpump was painted the same color but not the timing chain cover. My guess is someone has had the engine out and been in it at some time.
Brake master cylinder is a new one to me. That is a later model tandem master, but the port for the rear brakes is hooked to the old pressure switch and the port for the front brakes runs all the brakes. Single master cylinder with pressure switch would have been correct for '66. My guess is the correct master could not be found and someone got very creative to make a later mastery cylinder work.
Radiator is NOT for a V8. Maybe I6? I don't know for sure.
The alternator bracket looks interesting. That is not normal. Any better photos of that?
Looks like no heater. Maybe heater delete? Very odd. There should be an air intake on the passenger side of the cowl going inside the fender and feeding air into the passenger kick panel. The duct is missing. Is there a big hole in the passenger kick panel? Also on the passenger side of the cowl I see 2 data plates. Those are not stock. Any chance of getting a picture of those? That may tell more story, or make more mystery.

 

[okie4570]

Not a 66' 6cyl radiator, the cap will be offset to the driver's side several inches.

 

[Trikar]

Photo tells a lot
Air cleaner is period correct for a car, but not correct for a Bronco.
Red engine, someone got some red paint for some weird reason. I see the waterpump was painted the same color but not the timing chain cover. My guess is someone has had the engine out and been in it at some time.
Brake master cylinder is a new one to me. That is a later model tandem master, but the port for the rear brakes is hooked to the old pressure switch and the port for the front brakes runs all the brakes. Single master cylinder with pressure switch would have been correct for '66. My guess is the correct master could not be found and someone got very creative to make a later mastery cylinder work.
Radiator is NOT for a V8. Maybe I6? I don't know for sure.
The alternator bracket looks interesting. That is not normal. Any better photos of that?
Looks like no heater. Maybe heater delete? Very odd. There should be an air intake on the passenger side of the cowl going inside the fender and feeding air into the passenger kick panel. The duct is missing. Is there a big hole in the passenger kick panel? Also on the passenger side of the cowl I see 2 data plates. Those are not stock. Any chance of getting a picture of those? That may tell more story, or make more mystery.

ok, from my research,
The air cleaner is period correct and i saw it on other broncos.
the master cylinder looks correct to me, it's for disc brakes, the bronco have disc in the front.The connection, i have no idea what's going on.
No photo for the alternator bracket.
There is a heater under the dash. and i guess it have been deleted to put the plate you see. but why put them here? there is enough place elsewhere.
the plates are the vin tag from the kick panel (already posted sooner), the other one is a plate from Ford in my language with VIN number, type (U13) and weight.

 

[Broncobowsher]

Fuel pump in the same location on all small block fords. That doesn't signify a 260 at all.

 

[okie4570]

Fuel pump in the same location on all small block fords. That doesn't signify a 260 at all.

Yep you are correct sir, must be past my bedtime lol.

 

[Broncobowsher]

That may be a disk brake master cylinder, but it is not plumbed correctly as one. That is plumbed to mimic the original single pot master cylinder of '66 only.

The stock Bronco air cleaner overhangs the passenger side valve cover and has a duct that brings clean air up and over to the top of the carb. What you have is more of a car type of air cleaner and not a Bronco one.

 

[Trikar]

I notice something odd. i compared the picture with other pics of bronco engine bay, and the engine seems way on the driver side, the cylinder head cover are just underneath the master cylinder, when on photos of other bronco i see a significant gap.
exemple find on the interweb

 

[Broncobowsher]

A lot of that could be the angle of the photo. More of it could be homemade motormounts for the V8 swap. Not using the commercially available ones that are radially available over here.

I am also thinking of what oil pan was used. The front sump (car) pan typically gets in the way of the front axle. Broncos have a special rear sump pan. And I am betting they reused the I6 3-speed transmission.

 

[Trikar]

Yes it'a 3 speed.

I just found the meaning of "CF' of the engine number, it means Cleveland Foundrie!

 

[sykanr0ng]

ok, from my research,
The air cleaner is period correct and i saw it on other broncos.
the master cylinder looks correct to me, it's for disc brakes, the bronco have disc in the front.The connection, i have no idea what's going on.
No photo for the alternator bracket.
There is a heater under the dash. and i guess it have been deleted to put the plate you see. but why put them here? there is enough place elsewhere.
the plates are the vin tag from the kick panel (already posted sooner), the other one is a plate from Ford in my language with VIN number, type (U13) and weight.

Broncos did not come from Ford with front disc brakes until the 1976 model year.

 

[FRANKO289]

The battery is interesting to me ....

Its a old VARTA / pre 2010 .... made in Germany and only sold in NW Europe !

 

[Broncobowsher]

Yes it'a 3 speed.

I just found the meaning of "CF' of the engine number, it means Cleveland Foundrie!

But there are different 3-speeds between the V8 and I6 engines. Different lengths (I6 being shorter as the engine is longer) and different gearing.

The CF is very common. Nothing special about it. Still just a small block V8 and not a Cleveland V8.

While not original, this Bronco is still an interesting find. I'm sure some of the European mechanics have scratched there heads at the American engineering and tried to source parts. Much like American owners have done when an odd import shows up. Add in doing this in the pre-internet days of the first 40 years of its life.

 

[Trikar]

ok,
so, not original front disc
the cf was just another stuff to decipher

what do your experts eyes see on that one?