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Rear Spring Bolt Tightness

Prizefighter

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I just installed a 3.5" lift on my Bronco. How much should I tighten down my bolts, both on the front hanger and the two on the rear shackle? Also curious on the U-bolts too. I was wondering if the hanger bolts need to be a bit loose to let the suspension articulate.
 
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I was able to google it and found some threads on it. When I used the search function here not much popped up.

Anyway to delete this? I looked under edit post and didn't see it, we used to be able to delete threads?
 

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There is a thread on here with torque specs somewhere but you should drive down ur driveway or around the block very slow and hit as many bumps as you can to help the springs settle first
 

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Thats cool steve. I believe that someone posted in another thread a list if torque specs for most of the suspension with each bolt named. Such as
Leaf spring eye bolt - 120 ft lbs ( this is an example not the actual spec)
And then continued the list with the whole suspension. I think most of us need the more laymans term list. Wish i could find that posting

FOUND IT. Its called "torque spec thread. ". Sorry dont know how to post links
 

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I don't agree with automatically using the factory torque specs on aftermarket polyurethane bushings and their smooth-edged sleeves. Just too many variables over the stock rubber bushings and their serrated-edged sleeves. If you take that into account each time you do springs, you can use your own judgement as to what torque to use.
Basically then, no matter what the brand, the bottom line is the length of the inner steel sleeve.

If it's long enough to stick well proud of the bushing shoulder, then sure, crank 'em down to factory specs. But they're usually short enough that you end up squeezing too tight on the side of the bushing. Doing nothing beneficial, and usually shortening the life of the bushing and giving the truck a more harsh street ride as well.

So I would take each instance individually, and once the tires are back on the ground with full weight on the truck, and a few bounces to give the springs that initial settling they often go through, simply run the nuts up until the ears of the hanger/shackle/mount presses lightly against the bushing flanges or shoulders.
If the sleeves bottom first, then torque tightly. If the bushings bottom first, before any metal-to-metal contact, then put an additional 10-20 lbs max on the fasteners and leave them at that. Or even less than that, if the bushings show signs of being crushed.

To do this successfully however, your hardware must be either new, or in good working order so the locking nuts can hold things at this setting. If the old c-nuts are used and can't hold torque any longer (as so many can't after several removals) then replace the nuts with known good locking nuts. Either compression type, or Nyloc style. Either works.

That's what many of us do, and so far it's worked out perfectly for many years.

Paul
 

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The idea is to pinch the metal sleeve between the metal portions of the hanger allowing it no movement. That requires a fair amount of torque. Anything short of that and the bushing is no longer the pivot. Either the sleeve becomes the pivot point or the loose bolt itself does. When you see spring hangers or spring bolts that are ovaled or worn through a loose bolt is why. Poly bushings are meant to be compressed, leaving them loose negates them bring there.
 

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You're correct. But my point was to look at the sleeves in relation to the bushings and make your own determination.
If the sleeves are too short, and also if your hangers are already wobbled out like so many are, unless you repair the hanger or replace with a longer sleeve, you're simply crushing the bushings unnecessarily and losing some of the benefits of the new equipment.

The stock bushings did not leave much room for doubt, as the serrated edges stuck well proud of the rubber. Aftermarket stuff is not always so simple.
I'll get some measurements at least on our current setup to see if this even applies any more. It's good to call me out on that since, if ours are so sized, you can use factory torque specs as long as there is not too much damage to the hangers.
Can't talk for other brands, but at least I'll know for ours.

My experience with other brands has led me to the conclusion that factory torque is not appropriate for all setups. Not that cranking down on the bolts is not "better", like you say, but it's not going to make the ride very good, and the bushings last very long. I've seen sleeves well shy of the bushing's outer lip, causing the bushing to literally split if stock ratings were used.
Maybe that was just a limited experience, and no longer applies. So it's good to refresh the cranial database now and then.

The right sleeve is key. After I double check ours, if they're correct, I'll just change my tune and leave alternate methods for others to assume.

Thanks again.

Paul
 

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...aftermarket polyurethane bushings and their smooth-edged sleeves. ...they're usually short enough that you end up squeezing too tight on the side of the bushing. Doing nothing beneficial, and usually shortening the life of the bushing and giving the truck a more harsh street ride as well. ... If the bushings bottom first, before any metal-to-metal contact, then put an additional 10-20 lbs max on the fasteners and leave them at that. Or even less than that, if the bushings show signs of being crushed.
Leaving the bolts loose puts them into shear load at the sharp edges of the holes in the frame brackets, and allows them to wear each other. They're NOT designed for that. If the replacement sleeves are too short, return them and buy better parts. NEVER leave a fastener loose. You're not helping yourself, your truck, or the cheap part, which will still wear out faster than one made properly.

The spring bolts are designed to be in tension ONLY, by putting the bushing sleeves into enough compression to prevent any movement against the frame brackets & shackle, other than the bushing rotating on the sleeve. Keeping the bushing tightly squeezed prevents the frame from sliding sideways through the bushing, so a bushing too long is also wrong.

If the frame brackets' or shackles' holes are already worn, replace them at the same time as the bushings.
 

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Can't argue with that Steve. And wouldn't want to anyway!;D

Thanks guys.

Paul
 

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Prizefighter, if you don't know it already make sure to torque them properly and then drive it for awhile and check the torque again. Particularly if you take it off road any time soon. Recheck, check again until, they stop moving.
 
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