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Speedi / Redi Sleeve for Rear Small Bearing 28-spline Shaft

dsenatore

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So, I got a nick in one of my rear axle shafts on my '66. I can't find any definitive info or part number for this application. Took the shaft to napa and they couldn't help either. Does anyone know of the part number for a sleeve for this application? The micrometer reading I got on that surface was 1.366" and the speedi sleeve 99149 specs are:
Shaft diameter, minimum1.497 in
Shaft diameter, maximum1.503 in
The nick is too long to try and use the double seal trick etc...
Thank you,
David
 

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Bummer...and that is why I score and then chisel off my axle retainers. I think you're going to need/want a new/used axle.

In reviewing the SKF Speedi-Sleeve catalog, there's a distinct lack of products in that particular size. They have Ø34mm [Ø1.339"], and then it jumps up to Ø1.375 [Ø34.93"], with nothing in between.
 
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I was scoring and chiseling and the grinder jumped on me. Oh well, I think you're right in your assessment as far as a replacement axle. I appreciate your reply and looking into the speedi sleeve offerings. Have a great weekend!
David
 

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An old timer showed me to center punch the retainer then drill half way through it with a drill bit the same width as the retainer. The hit it at the drill spot with a chisel. They pop as in split every time and just slip right off.

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Interesting #99149 is the one I used on mine.
Good Morning Tbratz, was your application on a small bearing? Not sure that even matters from what I've read. Having seen this part number come up more than once I may just get it and return if it doesn't fit... :unsure:
Thanks for chiming in!
 

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The Ø80mm "big-bearing" applications have a Ø1.531 diameter for the bearing (ball bearing, not SET20 tapered roller bearing), and Ø1.500 shaft diameter for the seal, whereas the Ø72mm "small-bearing" applications run a Ø1.378" [Ø35mm] shaft diameter at the bearing and Ø1.365" diameter for the seal. Obviously, since the bearing has to slide over the seal surface, it's always going to be smaller than the bearing journal diameter.
 

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Good Morning Tbratz, was your application on a small bearing? Not sure that even matters from what I've read. Having seen this part number come up more than once I may just get it and return if it doesn't fit... :unsure:
Thanks for chiming in!
Mine is a big bearing, but apparently the axle shaft diameter is the same for both. I did a similar post several years ago and several members responded that the shafts are the same it is just the OD diameter of the bearings that is different.
 
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Mine is a big bearing, but apparently the axle shaft diameter is the same for both. I did a similar post several years ago and several members responded that the shafts are the same it is just the OD diameter of the bearings that is different.

Axle shaft diameters are different between big and small-bearing applications.

Timken 514003 (big-bearing)
Ø3.150" OD x Ø1.531" ID x 1.083"

Timken RW207CCRA (small-bearing)
Ø2.835" OD x Ø1.378" ID x .845"

Edited to add SET20 aftermarket tapered roller bearing option:
Timken SET20 [A20/BR20] (big-bearing)
Ø3.150" OD x Ø1.563" ID

Please note that there are also aftermarket sealed ball bearings with the same ID as the SET20 bearing noted above, Ø1.563", though most of these bearings will look a little different due to having O-rings in the outer race of the bearing and seals that are rated for both oil and grease, implying that they can be installed and run without inner oil seals. That said, I would still run an inner oil seal with any sealed ball-bearing setup as a belt and suspenders type of option. Some people will do a similar solution with the SET20's, noting that while they're intended to be run without inner seals (just the external ones captured on the axle by the bearing) and lubed by the diff lube, some people will run an inner oil seal and then grease the bearing like you would a front wheel bearing to avoid oil leaking issues.
 
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Even though it was not a factory offering on the Early Bronco Apogee, can you add the Set-20 to your list in that last post?
Just be a little more information in a good spot for people to view it.

Thanks.
 
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Axle shaft diameters are different between big and small-bearing applications.

Timken 514003 (big-bearing)
Ø3.150" OD x Ø1.531" ID x 1.083"

Timken RW207CCRA (small-bearing)
Ø2.835" OD x Ø1.378" ID x .845"
Thanks again @Apogee! You just resolved an issue that I've seen conflicting info on that's had me scratching my head. I'll abandon plans on ordering the 99149 Speedi Sleeve.
Cheers!
David
 
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