Tallest EB Lift ?

[72SPORT TX]

I have seen Project Orange Crush in the couple of issues of Bronco Driver I have read (only have issue 7 and 10, havent subscribed yet, I picked them up at local book/video store Hastings, need to get that subscription in ! ). The only thing I have seen about the lift is Toms Bronco Parts Stage 10 which is a 5.5 inch kit. That picture of it in this thread is the first one I have seen with those tires on it. I agree it looks great and would like to know more about it. I dig those 44's but I like to drive ....ALOT but I dont think the wife would let me out buying a new set of those every couple of years. I would still like to keep it around 38-40 inch. I know the bronco has a pretty short wheelbase but most jeeps are around 93" WB and I have seen some pretty big jeeps cruise around town that looked liked they handled really well. Now I wouldnt want a Jeep though.
Any one have any pics of a bronco with 5.5"/3" with 38 to 40 inch tires ? I would like to see that. To get an idea how it would look.
How about a bigger/wider track axles ?
Or maybe springover axles in the front (jeep style) has this been done and does it provide a better ride ?
Again, thanks guys for all the input ! I have learned more from reading and watching your guys trucks and projects come together than I could from any manual. Everyone here is willing to help out with their Bronco Bro's and Sisters too, And thats what makes this the best place for Bronco lovers ! Thanks ,
Don

 

[Pirate EB]

If you go with a 38" tire, you can still have a radial which won't wear as fast. To the best of my knowledge this is the biggest size radial (correct me if I'm wrong). That should fit just fine with a 3" body and 5.5" suspension lift.

 

[Pirate EB]

Tons of guys on here run a 5.5" lift and it handles fine. You are going to have to modify some things you wouldn't have to with say a 3.5" lift, but nothing unrealistic for the average guy. The body lift will not give you any problems as far as handling goes, so don't worry about that.

Give me a second and I might have some pictures. Just trying to find the sites to remote link them.

 

[msweb]

Orange Crush's Stats:

1969 Bronco Sport
5.0 Mustang engine
3 speed manual transmission
Dana 44 front
Ford 9" rear end welded
approx. 5.5" suspension lift and 3" body lift
38 x 15.5R15" Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radials on 15x10" Classic Locks
Tom's Bronco Parts Stage 10 (5 1/2") lift
Tom's Bronco Parts Custom Steering Wheel
Wild Horses drive shafts
Wild Horses Gorilla Warflares
BC Bronco's Rear Disk Brakes (still need front brakes)
BC Bronco's Dif/Trans Breather
Ron Davis Radiator
Driven Auto Parts- misc. cooling components
JB Custom Fab Twin Stick conversion from Tom's Bronco Parts
Painless Wiring Harness
Super Strap recovery strap
MIH Ind. Diamond Plate Door Panels
Mickey Thompson 38.5" Baja Claw Radials and M/T Classic Lock wheels
American Bronco's hood shock kit
Dennis Carpenter: misc. body parts
RJM Injection Technologies' 3G alternator with wiring kit and headlight harness

 

[72SPORT TX]

Cool ! Orange Crush stats. So, were the tires on the pictures of Orange Crush in this thread 44" or were they the ones listed in the stats, the Mickey Thompson 38.5" Baja Claw Radials ? I mean they look pretty big to me to just be 38.5". I saw another picture of it sitting on a trailer in front of the shop that is doing some of the work for the guys at BD mag. It was a better side view and those had to be at least 44' tires on it, they look even bigger when you look at them from the side. It is going to be one great ride when it is completed. I didnt even care for that color until I saw that picture, now I dont think anything else would be right for it! . (well except the Grabber Green I plan on doing mine in but thats a whole other thread waiting to happen, gotta get this thing up on its tall feet first ! )
If 5.5 suspension / 3 body is my limit and sounds like best choice, I mean without having to do some crazy fab work underneath it first, I will check around for of those suspension parts. I really do want to be able to make it through most trails, but I'd like it to be streetable enough to drive to those trails, and some Saturday night cruising with my wife. Believe me Im not looking for Escalade handling, I know this vehicle isnt built for it, Id like to be able to hit 65-70 without being in fear for my life either. ;D
Any good ideas on what front end/rear end , gearing and such to push those size tires ? Mine current tranny is automatic ( was manual but the PO changed it to auto. ) I have thought about going back to a stick a dropping in the ZF 5 speed. I read some good things about it. I currently run a 302 but having been shopping around for 351 and going with EFI.
Just want to get my perfect suspension setup so I can get all the parts because Im gonna pull the tub off the frame and refinish it , get all my suspension parts on, replace all the 32 year old parts( bushings, steering, etc, etc.) while the tubs gone to the P & B shop. Just so many great Broncos here that I see with too many great ideas. Im ready to get it all put together . Been buying new parts here and there, all interior parts , seats, new dash, new gauges, and alot of general parts just to replace some of yhe old worn out parts it has(many ! ) Got boxes of things piled up and even though the wife supports me in this obsession, she is ready for all of the pkg. to go too.
Well Thanks again guys. Appreciate all of the help and input !!!

Bye,
Don

 

[sstlaure]

I second the 5.5" suspension lift and 3" body lift idea. That shouldn't be too dificult or expensive, and will look really awesome.

Here's mine w/5.5" and 2" body lift, 33" tires, I'm going to cut the fenders out to make them larger to run 35's. I like the height. (My suspension allows full compression, so anything larger than 35 on my truck is out of the question without butchering the flares/body tub.

 

[Pirate EB]

72SPORT TX I have some awesome pictures I can email you if you want.

 

[Gummi Bear]

72 -

You're looking at putting Dana 60 axles or similar to turn meats that big. I've seen folks turn 38.5's on a 9" and D44, but if you're gonna flail on it, definitely go 60's. Before you build a monster truck, consider what you're gonna use it for first. There is such a thing as too big, and if it is, it is a worthless turd on the trail. If you're building a mall crawler, you'll do fine. Cutting sheetmetal can be your best friend, in the interest of keeping the center of gravity (COG) lower. Something else to consider is the wheelbase of the vehicle. I've seen some heeps on 44's and still with the 93" wheelbase, but on the trail, they are pretty tippy. You'll have to move the axles fore and aft, out some to stabilize your ride.

I'm beginning a similar project this winter, D60's, 39.5 IROK tires, 4.9L EFI motor, C4 (or C6) Klune V, and an Atlas. I know what it's gonna be used for, and I'm shooting for a 103" wheelbase.

 

[ricks77eb]

Those are not Mickey's on that Orange Crush those are Boggers. It was my understanding that when they first got the truck it had 44's on it so that must be a before picture .

Rick

 

[msweb]

I just copied the stats off of BroncoDrivers site and posted them. I didn't catch that one!

 

[komodo72]

I have a 5.5" suspension and 3" body lift with 38's. For what I do it is to much lift and I wish I'd went 4.5" at the tallest maybe even 3.5". I'm in the process of putting a 2" body lift on and cutting my fenders. It does drive great and all, but if you plan on any real world off-roading I highly recommend you go smaller. I think 4.5" suspension with 2" body and 37-39's would be the way I would go if I could start all over again. Here's some old pics... just got new computer so don't have very many pictures any more.

edit. nm the pics will havta wait. sry

 

[72SPORT TX]

Hey Guys.

Hey pirate, I sure would appreciate the pics.

My email is sportbronco@earthlink.net

sstlaure, I think that truck will look great with some 35's on it. I really like that cage you have. I have been following your build thread. I also like tose tail lights you did. I thought about getting some modern tail lights and fabricating but I really like the look of those. Are they LED lights ?

The more I look at that picture of project orange crush , the more I like the way it looks. Anybody know anything more about it than what the web page has. Or maybe a few more pics.
Thanks, Don

 

[Pirate EB]

I sent you an email with some pics.

 

[SaddleUp]

The largest suspension lift you will normally find via the EB vendors is 5.5" (or 4" Big Bronco). Note: I added in the 4" BB lift because the same springs are often used under a BB which gives 4" of lift on them. Using the same reasoning a set of BB 6" springs could be used under an EB to gain 7 1/2" of suspension lift. Add 3" of body lift to get a total of about 10 1/2" of lift.

I don't suggest going this route though since you would start running into problems with both steering and driveshaft angles. Using a HP D44 might help. In fact using full width BB axles under it would be desireable to help stabilize it with that much lift anyway. Going that route could raise issues with the tires sticking out too far though.

I would say you probably can get 42" tires under an EB with a 5 1/2" Suspension and 3" body lift as long as you also go with an extreme cutout flare such as the warflares.

 

[sstlaure]

Hey Guys.

Hey pirate, I sure would appreciate the pics.

My email is sportbronco@earthlink.net

sstlaure, I think that truck will look great with some 35's on it. I really like that cage you have. I have been following your build thread. I also like tose tail lights you did. I thought about getting some modern tail lights and fabricating but I really like the look of those. Are they LED lights ?

They aren't LED's, but they could be. I got the individual cans at a truck stop for ~$6.00 a piece, they came with the lens, bulb, rubber grommet and a short 2-wire pigtail. (I think they are the lights used on the backs of the cab & for taillights on the trailers.) The LED units were ~$40/ea. I believe that the LED units had a plastic housing, which wouldn't work for what I was trying to do. Here's a close-up of the taillight. (grind a flat on each can and weld together.) For me, the whole idea was to create something that was less expensive that buying all of the stock replacement stuff. With a non-functioning tailgate, it allowed me a larger area to install the taillights. (Although the backsides of the cans did intrude into the interior of the truck, I've made some storage boxes to go into each corner to cover the holes.

Oh yeah, and the Orange Crush pics in this thread are the 39.5" Baja Claws not the 44" Boggers

 

[bigpappa]

I ran across a picture of an EB on rockwells a little while back. I honestly don't see how you could to it without at least a foot of lift under it.

Where did you see this? I would like to see this picture as well.


I am going top be going with a 4.5" lift and a 2" body lift running 37s.

 

[ricks77eb]

Oh yeah, and the Orange Crush pics in this thread are the 39.5" Baja Claws not the 44" Boggers

That is not the original picture of the Orange Crush that did have the boggers on it, but thanks for catching that....6 months later.

 

[sstlaure]

That is not the original picture of the Orange Crush that did have the boggers on it, but thanks for catching that....6 months later.

I remembered it being on the 44 Boggers originally. Somehow I missed some of the posts in this thread way back when. I searched under my ID and saw a question was asked of me....Oh well, better late than never.

 

[bigpappa]

Here is a big one I have a picture of. Most remember this as the Hulk. For reference thoes are 38's.

 

[welndmn]

I am pretty tall, but I i need the height, My tires can/will/have rub the hood.
5.5 inch lift, OLD, sagged to about 3.5 inch lift
3 inch body lift,
A few pics below from Saturday, blue wheels = 38's, chrome ones = 44's.
I did not like the 44's for the rocks, WAY to much tire, I will be getting a set of 42's soon.