tranny wire/// new starter//c-4 conversion

[nabb1204]

hey guys, Can anyone tell me what the wire on the left side of a manual 3spd does.... it looks like a ground? Just wondered I put in a c-4 after removing the 3spd and installed a new mini starter and followed the directions with it and even tried the old starter wire method but it wont turn over. I also checked for voltage at the solenoid on the fender well and there was no output.... any Ideas?? Thanks in advance... Scott

 

[blazinchuck]

is there a neutral/safety switch still installed on the old colum/pedal??not sure, I just went the other way except with a np435. Mines all good-I rewired it last year,Good luck,Chuck

 

[nabb1204]

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not sure.... where do I look for that? I know that the automatic is missing it.
-Scott

 

[blazinchuck]

if ya had the 3 on the tree-it might have been near those shifter ears on the column, not sure-Chuck

 

[eb66to77]

the NSS is on the driver's side of the trans and is where the shifter and kick-down goes. You seem to have the starter wire messed up if it won't even turn over. There wasn't a clutch safety on the 3-speed. Check power at the solenoid. If you don't have power at the "s' post then the problem is before it.

BTW- the nss is also the backup switch. The back up switch was on the column originally. The nss causes a break in the starter wire while the trans is not in park or neutral.

 

[nabb1204]

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I know for sure that my c4 does not have a nss but my old 3speeed column does have a switch that I thought was the backup light switch. I will try and "make" this switch to see if it works. I do have a 77 auto column and a rockcrawler power steering set up going in next. Do I have to have a NSS? I mean other that the obvious safety issue. I plan to add one but was trying to get it back together before I dove off into the wiring. Thanks for all the help-Scott

 

[Skuzzlebutt]

You don't have to have one.
Does your C4 have a hole where the NSS should be?

 

[nabb1204]

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yes, it does have the hole..... I think I may have a bad solenoid... I have power on the #2 (small) post on the solenoid when the key is put into the start position. Do you know what the single wire is on the left side of the 3 spd? It really looks like a ground as it just pressed onto the screw type lug. It has a protective boot over the contact area. Thanks, Scott

 

[nabb1204]

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Hello and thanks to yall who helped..... ended up being the battery. It seemed to have good voltage just not enought amperage to start the bronc. Thanks again!! -Scott