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Which heads on my 289?

VeryTALONted

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OK so I have a 67 U15 with a 289. And the heads are gonna need some work (hardened seats, screw in rocker studs {press in ones are backing out}, maybe valve job, etc.)

My question is this, I want to make decent power with this Bronco (nothing radical, it will be used for mild off roading/mudding with my kids), but am looking for the most cost effective way to ensure that my heads will last awhile and be ready for the 21st Century.

Should I send them to the machine shop, should I buy some used 302 heads (is so which ones?)???

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!;D
 

latrucker

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But the price is why I worry about those...:eek:

I will be selling a set of iron gt40s. These are considered bypst to be the best factory sbf heads. I had them machined for screw in rocker studs and had the pads cut to accept single and double valve spring for flat tapper or roller cam. Had the valve bowls smoothed. Made really good power. Just ordered a set of aluminum afr's to feed my thirst for more power. For sale as soon as the new heads come in.
 

broncnaz

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If you price out the work you want done to the stock heads you'll see that aluminums or even other aftermarket heads are not much more and you actually gain something over stock heads. I wouldnt buy the so called top of the line pricey aluminum heads for a bronco unless you are racing or going to run a big stroker motor as you will never see full benefit and really for the price they are kind of a waste of money when the cheaper heads do the same thing.
 

JLBachs

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I have been looking forward to getting heads for my roller 351 and have searched and researched this site and others for suggestions. The consensus seems to be that aftermarket heads are the best choice. I have an old set of '70 351 heads, but I'm not going to use them - the bigger exhaust valves and ports available in the aftermarket - that made the choice for me.
 

vintage bronco

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Be careful with head choice on a 289 as they need a small combustion chamber to keep compression ratio up it would be a shame to buy decent set of heads and loose power because of the loss in compression ratio. I would do the orig heads and do some exhaust work and bowl blend them but do not get carried away as you could loose low end TQ if you over do it. JMO
 
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VeryTALONted

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Thanks for all the opinions guys, gives me something to consider...

And recommendations on aftermarket companies that don't bend you over?

My 'buyer buttons' are 1)Price, 2) long term reliability, and 3)power....
 

broncnaz

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Most all the heads out there are fairly compareable a few are more spendy than the others and IMO not needed unless your racing and need that last bit of power for the extra $400. On the other hand I'd stay away form the cheaper lesser named heads like pro comp they are hit or miss as far as quality. So basically price out the heads and take a pick I wouldnt worry much about overall power as your really not going to see large gains in the lower RPM's they really only see big gains in the higher RPM's.
I wouldnt worry much about losing compression on a 289 most of the heads out there are availible with combustion chambers the same size or close to the stock 289 chambers just stay under 64cc chambers and your fine. compression itself doesnt really make you much more power.
I'd Suggest going with heads with 1.90/1.60 valves and 58-61cc chambers.
 

Broncobowsher

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Thanks for all the opinions guys, gives me something to consider...

And recommendations on aftermarket companies that don't bend you over?

My 'buyer buttons' are 1)Price, 2) long term reliability, and 3)power....

For #2 I have ran a set of Trick Flows for a decade without needing any work to them. Someone else here has had a set for about 15 years as well.

I will admit I have never done a set on a 289.
 

John Marinan

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I would take the heads to a machine shop, check them for valve recession, if there is none, do a valve job on them, install screw in studs and put them back on. If you want a good shot of performance have them cut for Chevy valves and Z28 springs. I've run these heads for 20 years of no lead fuel and have had zero problems with valve recession without hardened seats.
 
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Ranchtruck

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Or go down to a U-pull it style junkyard and grab some GT40 heads off a 96-mid 97 explorer and toss them on. Shouldn't be more than $150 for the heads plus an afternoons work getting them off. You will need to dimple the stock bronco valve cover's internal baffle to clear the new style rockers, but they're a bolt on other than that.
 

bax

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Cylinder heads determine the personality of an engine as much as the camshaft and induction
system do. Modern Ford V-8 engines have always struggled to make power using stock
components for one basic fundamental reason—port size and bowl design. One trick has been to
open up the ports with grinding and polishing to improve air flow. Another popular performance trick
has been to fit the 221, 260, 289 and 302 engines with 351W heads to improve power.

Ford looked to its own parts shelf for power when it conceived the Boss 302 engine (basically
nothing more than an old hot rodding trick), making a cylinder head swap from the 351 Cleveland
engine family when it debuted for 1970. The 351C’s large-port cylinder heads worked wonders on
the 302 engine because they flowed huge quantities of air at high rpms. Simply put, they made
torque on the high end. They weren’t much for low rpm street use, however.
Small-block Ford cylinder head identification is straightforward and fairly easy if you know what to
look for. The most important issue to remember is casting number versus the cataloged Ford part
number. Rarely are the two ever the same. What we’re concerned with most here are casting
numbers found on the castings themselves.
221/260
The 221 cylinder head is identifiable by observing its small, kidney-shaped 45cc chambers and 1.59
/1.39-inch valves. These heads are typically numbered C2OE or C3OE and are all virtually the
same. The 260 heads have slightly larger, kidney-shaped chambers at 54.5cc chambers with the
same size valves as the 221. These heads typically have three possible casting numbers—C2OE-
F, C3OE-B, or the improved C4OE-B 260 head introduced in February of 1964, with larger 1.67/1.
45-inch valves and same 54.5cc chambers.

The 221/260 heads sport small 45cc and 54.5cc chambers respectively, which is great for
compression. Their small ports don't do much for power, however. Valve size is 1.59/1.39-inches
intake/exhaust. An improved 260 head for 1964 has larger 1.67/1.45-inch valves like the 289.
289
The 289 head was available in several configurations beginning first in 1963. Like the 260 head,
the 289 head has 54.5cc chambers with more recessed sparkplug penetration in a high-swirl
design. What’s more, valve sizes were the same as the 260’s at 1.67/1.45-inches. The 289 head
casting numbers were typically C3AE-F, C3OE-E and F and C4AE-C from 1963-64. Casting
numbers evolved to C5DE-B, C6DE-G and C6OE-M from 1965-66. C6DE-C and C6DE-E were
smog heads machined for the Thermactor air pump system on California sales district bound
vehicles beginning in the 1966 model year. Using a Thermactor head does not adversely affect
power. The Thermactor air pump manifold ports can be plugged and the head used without the
Thermactor system. If you’re building a vehicle originally equipped with Thermactor, your cylinder
heads must be a casting equipped with the Thermactor ports. Non-Thermactor heads cannot be
modified for the Thermactor manifold.

The 289 head has a slightly larger chamber than the 221/260 at 54.5cc. The 289 head is
identified by the "289" in the casting as shown. Earlier castings for the 221 and 260 don't have
this identifying mark.
Beginning May 2, 1966 in production, the 289 head was revised for rail-style rocker arms. Push rod
guide holes cast in the heads were eliminated with the rail-style rocker arms. Numbers to look for
are C7OE-A, C7OE-B, C7OE-C, C7OZ-B and C7ZE-B from mid-1966 through 1967.

From 1962 until May 2, 1966, all 221/ 260/289 engines had pushrod guides cast in the cylinder
head. Beginning May 2, 1966, Ford went to a rail-style rocker arm where the rocker is centered
at the valve. The rail-style rocker arm is on the left. The valve cover also changed with the
advent of the rail-style rocker arm. Pent-roof valve covers cleared the rail-style rockers.
For the 1968 model year, the only part numbers to look for are C8OE-D, C8OE-L and C8OE-M for
the 289, which employ lower compression 63cc chambers for use on the 289-2V engine that year.
Despite changes in part and casting numbers, all of these 289 heads are basically the same except
for machined-in provisions for Thermactor. The main thing to watch for in changes is valve and
combustion chamber sizes. Part and casting numbers are directly tied to these changes.

The 289 High Performance cylinder head is a unique casting. The Hi-Po head has cast-in valve
spring pockets that maintain spring stability at high revs. This head also has screw-in rocker arm
studs. These features make this head very desirable for racing and street performance
applications. Valve size is the same as the standard 289 head through 1967. The 1967 289 High
Performance service head has slightly larger ports while keeping the same sized valves. The Hi-Po
head number to look for is C3OE, which is the 1963 head with small 49.2cc chambers (for higher
compression). This head has the smaller valves—1.67/1.45-inch. Beginning in 1964, the 289 Hi-Po’
s intake valve size increased to 1.78-inches where it remained through 1967. Combustion chamber
size increased to 54.5cc for 1964, just like the standard 289 head. Numbers to look for here are
C4OE-B, C5OE-A and C5AE-E. These heads are obvious at a glance. Just look for the valve spring
pockets and screw-in studs.

The 1963-67 289 High
Performance head is easily
identified by the double-dot
"289", valve spring pockets and
screw-in rocker arm studs. Note
the pushrod guides cast in the
head. The 289 High
Performance engine was never
fitted with rail-style rocker arms.
Despite the 289 High Performance head’s reputation for rarity, the aftermarket cylinder head
industry has taken the spotlight off of the Hi-Po head. Cost considerations and a better design in
the aftermarket have made the 289 High Performance head less desirable when performance is the
only goal. Where originality is important, these heads are quite valuable at approximately $600 a
set bare, in good condition. Complete, they can net as high as $1200.
 

bronconut73

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Messages
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Cylinder heads determine the personality of an engine as much as the camshaft and induction
system do. Modern Ford V-8 engines have always struggled to make power using stock
components for one basic fundamental reason—port size and bowl design. One trick has been to
open up the ports with grinding and polishing to improve air flow. Another popular performance trick
has been to fit the 221, 260, 289 and 302 engines with 351W heads to improve power.

Ford looked to its own parts shelf for power when it conceived the Boss 302 engine (basically
nothing more than an old hot rodding trick), making a cylinder head swap from the 351 Cleveland
engine family when it debuted for 1970. The 351C’s large-port cylinder heads worked wonders on
the 302 engine because they flowed huge quantities of air at high rpms. Simply put, they made
torque on the high end. They weren’t much for low rpm street use, however.
Small-block Ford cylinder head identification is straightforward and fairly easy if you know what to
look for. The most important issue to remember is casting number versus the cataloged Ford part
number. Rarely are the two ever the same. What we’re concerned with most here are casting
numbers found on the castings themselves.
221/260
The 221 cylinder head is identifiable by observing its small, kidney-shaped 45cc chambers and 1.59
/1.39-inch valves. These heads are typically numbered C2OE or C3OE and are all virtually the
same. The 260 heads have slightly larger, kidney-shaped chambers at 54.5cc chambers with the
same size valves as the 221. These heads typically have three possible casting numbers—C2OE-
F, C3OE-B, or the improved C4OE-B 260 head introduced in February of 1964, with larger 1.67/1.
45-inch valves and same 54.5cc chambers.

The 221/260 heads sport small 45cc and 54.5cc chambers respectively, which is great for
compression. Their small ports don't do much for power, however. Valve size is 1.59/1.39-inches
intake/exhaust. An improved 260 head for 1964 has larger 1.67/1.45-inch valves like the 289.
289
The 289 head was available in several configurations beginning first in 1963. Like the 260 head,
the 289 head has 54.5cc chambers with more recessed sparkplug penetration in a high-swirl
design. What’s more, valve sizes were the same as the 260’s at 1.67/1.45-inches. The 289 head
casting numbers were typically C3AE-F, C3OE-E and F and C4AE-C from 1963-64. Casting
numbers evolved to C5DE-B, C6DE-G and C6OE-M from 1965-66. C6DE-C and C6DE-E were
smog heads machined for the Thermactor air pump system on California sales district bound
vehicles beginning in the 1966 model year. Using a Thermactor head does not adversely affect
power. The Thermactor air pump manifold ports can be plugged and the head used without the
Thermactor system. If you’re building a vehicle originally equipped with Thermactor, your cylinder
heads must be a casting equipped with the Thermactor ports. Non-Thermactor heads cannot be
modified for the Thermactor manifold.

The 289 head has a slightly larger chamber than the 221/260 at 54.5cc. The 289 head is
identified by the "289" in the casting as shown. Earlier castings for the 221 and 260 don't have
this identifying mark.
Beginning May 2, 1966 in production, the 289 head was revised for rail-style rocker arms. Push rod
guide holes cast in the heads were eliminated with the rail-style rocker arms. Numbers to look for
are C7OE-A, C7OE-B, C7OE-C, C7OZ-B and C7ZE-B from mid-1966 through 1967.

From 1962 until May 2, 1966, all 221/ 260/289 engines had pushrod guides cast in the cylinder
head. Beginning May 2, 1966, Ford went to a rail-style rocker arm where the rocker is centered
at the valve. The rail-style rocker arm is on the left. The valve cover also changed with the
advent of the rail-style rocker arm. Pent-roof valve covers cleared the rail-style rockers.
For the 1968 model year, the only part numbers to look for are C8OE-D, C8OE-L and C8OE-M for
the 289, which employ lower compression 63cc chambers for use on the 289-2V engine that year.
Despite changes in part and casting numbers, all of these 289 heads are basically the same except
for machined-in provisions for Thermactor. The main thing to watch for in changes is valve and
combustion chamber sizes. Part and casting numbers are directly tied to these changes.

The 289 High Performance cylinder head is a unique casting. The Hi-Po head has cast-in valve
spring pockets that maintain spring stability at high revs. This head also has screw-in rocker arm
studs. These features make this head very desirable for racing and street performance
applications. Valve size is the same as the standard 289 head through 1967. The 1967 289 High
Performance service head has slightly larger ports while keeping the same sized valves. The Hi-Po
head number to look for is C3OE, which is the 1963 head with small 49.2cc chambers (for higher
compression). This head has the smaller valves—1.67/1.45-inch. Beginning in 1964, the 289 Hi-Po’
s intake valve size increased to 1.78-inches where it remained through 1967. Combustion chamber
size increased to 54.5cc for 1964, just like the standard 289 head. Numbers to look for here are
C4OE-B, C5OE-A and C5AE-E. These heads are obvious at a glance. Just look for the valve spring
pockets and screw-in studs.

The 1963-67 289 High
Performance head is easily
identified by the double-dot
"289", valve spring pockets and
screw-in rocker arm studs. Note
the pushrod guides cast in the
head. The 289 High
Performance engine was never
fitted with rail-style rocker arms.
Despite the 289 High Performance head’s reputation for rarity, the aftermarket cylinder head
industry has taken the spotlight off of the Hi-Po head. Cost considerations and a better design in
the aftermarket have made the 289 High Performance head less desirable when performance is the
only g
owal. Where originality is important, these heads are quite valuable at approximately $600 a
set bare, in good condition. Complete, they can net as high as $1200.

Wow. Extremely valuable data. Thank you Sir.
 

redtail

Sr. Member
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Messages
621
If you are looking for cheap power, put your 289 aside and step up to a 351W. You can probably find a good running engine in a cheap truck and swap it over. No cost for hardened seats even if you do decide to freshen up, even if you pull a junkyard engine.
 

broncnaz

Bronco Guru
Joined
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Messages
24,341
If you are looking for cheap power, put your 289 aside and step up to a 351W. You can probably find a good running engine in a cheap truck and swap it over. No cost for hardened seats even if you do decide to freshen up, even if you pull a junkyard engine.

Might be the best head swap idea yet.lol swap the egnine underneath the heads as well.

Im the one that has been running TFS heads on my bronco for the last 15 years with no issues. I know I have at least 75K on them but I think its closer to if not over 100K. have to find my info from when i replaced the heads to know exactly.
 
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