Years of speculation, but it sounds like the bronco is coming back for real this time

[hyghlndr]

The introduction of a modern retro look for the Mustang didn't hurt the classic Mustang market. With the simplicity and cool look of the early Broncos they should only go up.

 

[No Hay]

I think if it's designed by a bean counters, it will be and look cheap. We will lose our value.

If it's designed and backed by true enthusiasts, it will be and look like it should. We will gain value.

I'm skeptical but hopeful.

 

[Dusty]

The new Bronco won't have any affect on EB values. When the Mustangs came out with retro cues and they sold millions of them, classic Mustang values continued to rise. When the retro T-bird came out a few years ago and was a flop, classic Thunderbird values continued to rise. Whatever they do with the new Bronco, it won't affect the supply and demand of the classic ones. Its a silly notion to think that they will, regardless of whether the new Bronco is something that we approve or disapprove of as classic Bronco enthusiasts.

 

[Heisenberg]

The new Bronco won't have any affect on EB values. When the Mustangs came out with retro cues and they sold millions of them, classic Mustang values continued to rise. When the retro T-bird came out a few years ago and was a flop, classic Thunderbird values continued to rise. Whatever they do with the new Bronco, it won't affect the supply and demand of the classic ones. Its a silly notion to think that they will, regardless of whether the new Bronco is something that we approve or disapprove of as classic Bronco enthusiasts.

I sort of agree with the OP, the new broncos might bring about more interest in the EB increasing the demand for them. More demand and ever declining supply should increase the value of EB's.

 

[Pa PITT]

Sorry But I say ours will still be a Bronco The new one will be a 1 speed transfer case . Hopefully it'll be a rear wheel drive. It'll very light weight & most likely won't yield it's self to even a set of larger tires ..
... Probably a Escape van on steroids.
... I'm not overly thrilled . But at least it has a good retro look to it. I saw it yesterday.

 

[roundhouse]

Most likely it will be a unibody 4 cylinder front wheel drive POS
Based on the escape or focus

Probably without even low range
Will most likely be a flop like the Probe and retro thunderbird

With the thunderbird , they took away the back seat , turning it into a toy instead of a useable vehicle and doubled the price from the 1996 model

Anyone paying $40 K for a two seat toy is getting status like a BMW or Porsche , not a ford

What seems to help the value more than anything is when a car is prominently used In a blockbuster movie

Remember. They tried really hard to turn the mustang into a fwd 4 banger POS

They are planning on selling the new stang in Europe. But not with a real engine , only 4 bangers , no V-8 in Europe .

They slap some chrome on a Taurus , call it a Lincoln m k whatever and add $25k to the price and wonder why it doesn't sell

They focus they sold in North America was always a generation behind the one they sold in Europe
We got yesterday's news , well actually seven year old news , while Honda and Toyota are developing new generations every 40 months and then ford wondered why it didn't sell.

Worst part is that Mexico and South America get the new high tech flexible 3 billion each factories , we get a plant making a vehicle destined to be a flop .





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[bronconut73]

Most likely it will be a unibody 4 cylinder front wheel drive POS
Based on the escape or focus

Probably without even low range
Will most likely be a flop like the Probe and retro thunderbird

With the thunderbird , they took away the back seat , turning it into a toy instead of a useable vehicle and doubled the price from the 1996 model

Anyone paying $40 K for a two seat toy is getting status like a BMW or Porsche , not a ford

What seems to help the value more than anything is when a car is prominently used In a blockbuster movie

Remember. They tried really hard to turn the mustang into a fwd 4 banger POS

They are planning on selling the new stang in Europe. But not with a real engine , only 4 bangers , no V-8 in Europe .

They slap some chrome on a Taurus , call it a Lincoln m k whatever and add $25k to the price and wonder why it doesn't sell

They focus they sold in North America was always a generation behind the one they sold in Europe
We got yesterday's news , well actually seven year old news , while Honda and Toyota are developing new generations every 40 months and then ford wondered why it didn't sell.

Worst part is that Mexico and South America get the new high tech flexible 3 billion each factories , we get a plant making a vehicle destined to be a flop .





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Yes, Europe always got a better Focus and Escort.
That will change with the Fiesta and Focus plants in Mexico. They will be what are called world cars. We will now get the same car as Europe.

The reason for moving small cars production to Mexico is because it's a world car and it's country of manufacture will not be as pertinent for sales.
What is taking the place of the Focus/Fiesta production plants in Michigan?
The New Ranger/Bronco. A vehicle whoms origins of production will probably matter to Americans where they plan to sell so many.

I don't like Ford taking production out of the US either but if they are taking something away I guess it can be small car production. Again Ford considers the Fiesta/Focus a "World Car" not so much an American car so for them it doesn't matter where it's built.

 

[69_Sport]

My prediction is that the new Bronco won't be based on a car - but on the existing Ranger that's sold all over the world EXCEPT in the US.

Word has it that Ford will finally sell the Ranger stateside again. When I was living in Brazil, they had a Powerstroke diesel version of the Ranger available. I did a double take the first time I saw the Powerstroke emblems on a Ranger.

The Ranger is due for a facelift, and I think that the facelifted version we be what we will see in the US. And the Bronco will be another version built on the same platform. Smaller than the F150. Hopefully the diesel version will make it to production as well.

 

[Dusty]

I sort of agree with the OP, the new broncos might bring about more interest in the EB increasing the demand for them. More demand and ever declining supply should increase the value of EB's.

My point was that EB values will continue to rise regardless. If the introduction of the new Bronco has any effect on that, either accelerating or decelerating the rate of increase, it will be immeasurable and negligible.

 

[Seattle66]

I agree with others that say this new EB won't negatively effect the value of Classic EB's. It will have no effect or a positive effect if it ends up being a decent rig that drives more interest in Bronco's in general.

It just reminds me how dumb I was to sell my 1990 Fullsize XLT with the 5.8L V8. God, I loved that thing, but couldn't handle the low mileage and gas costs being a brand new college grad commuting for work. For nostalgia, I had to post a scan of an old pic where I drove it across a creek.

 

[Rustytruck]

Value will only go up. With everyone waiting and hoping that Ford will give us the Bronco we want and are not going to get the hype will be over and the wait will be over. So the only alternative to the EPA pipe dream Bronco is our tried and true Classics. 2020 is a long way away we might not have any gas to drive our old classics.

Los Angeles Times
May 27, 2015 - “Automakers are meeting the challenge of making cleaner cars, and Americans are buying those cars.” Automakers must produce fleets that have a so-called Corporate Average Fuel Economy of about 42 miles per gallon by 2020 and 54.5 mpg by 2025.

There is no room in 2020 for the Bronco of our dreams. You get the Ford Escape, turbo 4, automatic only, and viscous coupling 4x4, cost will be well over $40,000 and will be a 4 door because you cant get kids car seats in the back with a small 2 door. Just make sure that your old extra Broncos are fixed up and ready to sell because 2021 there will be the next big run on them. So you have 4 years to get ready.

 

[Prizefighter]

Aluminum body and an EcoBoost. I'm calling it. Just talked with the general manager at our Ford dealership and he said that's where all Fords are heading.

 

[sprdv1]

Aluminum body and an EcoBoost. I'm calling it. Just talked with the general manager at our Ford dealership and he said that's where all Fords are heading.

the inside scoop, nice

 

[Prizefighter]

The general manager said they just had a meeting last night about it.

He also said the tooling used to make the Ranger overseas has been shipped to Michigan. That means a more Ranger/Bronco similar to what is sold overseas. I wouldn't go as far to say the same vehicle since it will have to be toned down for a broader American audience I imagine.

The general public knows more than what Ford tells them so a well informed person with credible sources will be further ahead of the dealers on information. What I was doing was picking his brain to understand the mindset and trends to see what they would go for and what they wouldn't.

He said absolutely not on a diesel. Nissan's Cummins was a flop and Ford has no desire to attempt that with anything. I asked if Ford would take a chance on a removable hard top - No. Too risky and Jeep has that cornered very well. He didn't even like the idea of straight axles and said probably a 2wd and 4wd version would be offered like the Ranger.

 

[okie4570]

The general manager said they just had a meeting last night about it.

He also said the tooling used to make the Ranger overseas has been shipped to Michigan. That means a more Ranger/Bronco similar to what is sold overseas. I wouldn't go as far to say the same vehicle since it will have to be toned down for a broader American audience I imagine.

The general public knows more than what Ford tells them so a well informed person with credible sources will be further ahead of the dealers on information. What I was doing was picking his brain to understand the mindset and trends to see what they would go for and what they wouldn't.

He said absolutely not on a diesel. Nissan's Cummins was a flop and Ford has no desire to attempt that with anything. I asked if Ford would take a chance on a removable hard top - No. Too risky and Jeep has that cornered very well. He didn't even like the idea of straight axles and said probably a 2wd and 4wd version would be offered like the Ranger.

Hurl x 10,000..................

 

[roundhouse]

Hurl x 10,000..................

Stealership employees are the last people who would know a thing

Most couldn't tell you what vehicles they sell are FWD and which are RWD


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[76 bronco J]

just copied my response from new jeep vs. new bronco thread.......>>> Ford's market research has to know the public doesn't want anything like that Everest or that rounded thing in the pic a few posts above called a bronco.... also know probably that S10 blazer looking concept thrown around also wouldn't work...found the following article that's seems right on the money "7 Features the New 2018 Ford Bronco Needs to Have" >> see - http://www.maxim.com/rides/critical-features-of-new-ford-bronco-2016-10

 

[Rustytruck]

I think that Ford should give the scoop first through Bronco Driver. Then run a lotto in the Bronco Driver and get a dozen of us to do pre production testing in Baja. Then I will take them serious.

 

[66Uncut]

Didn't Ford used to own Land Rover? Whenever I see the new Explorer, I'm reminded of the Range Rover.

Based on that, I could kinda see Ford making a boxier and retro looking Evoque with a removable hard top to stay true to the EB.

 

[Tiko433]

I just don't understand the Bronco had a huge following. That even crosses brand loyalty. Jeep has stuck with a model that works. A small 4wd with a removable top . Ford went away from that many years ago. While Jeep stuck with the idea and stayed true. I'm a big fan of the FSB, but that was the start of Ford loosing there way. When they stopped making a full removable top it was a slippery slope. They have a great opportunity to push the reset button.