Coyote/6R80 Swap

[ajonesny]

Does anyone know of a coyote/6r80 swap that is up and running? I've seen some builds on here running this combo but there isn't much data on how they are performing.

 

[kb6677]

Does anyone know of a coyote/6r80 swap that is up and running? I've seen some builds on here running this combo but there isn't much data on how they are performing.

Over 500 to the wheels with conservative pulleys, tune and initial run in. Pretty well I would say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5fyhtQ2SvM

 

[ajonesny]

I know, I've seen that. Van is a stud but there just isn't any info after that post. Maybe he'll follow up one of these days.

 

[kb6677]

I know, I've seen that. Van is a stud but there just isn't any info after that post. Maybe he'll follow up one of these days.

I just answered your original post- you did not say anything about being familiar with his video. That bronco is being worked on right now with the idea of being completed before Nov. 1- Hopefully he will have more updates as it gets closer to being "done". I know many of us are looking fwd to seeing it done-probably none more than Van!!

 

[ajonesny]

I'm glad to hear Van's build is getting closer to completion. I would have to say that is one of my favorite builds. The suspension is unreal. Van doesn't seem to be a big social media guy. Anyone know if he has any other coyote/6r80s out there?

 

[Dpearce]

I've talked quite a bit with Jason at BC Broncos on this topic as I'm in the middle of a Coyote Luber build. Still issues with the 6r80 - mainly the trans controller computer. We've heard that it's close for about 2 years now.
I'm moving forward with a 4r70w. Jason said that once the 6r80 gets worked out, it would be a pretty straightforward swap with the 4r70w if one was so inclined.

 

[cw]

Over 500 to the wheels with conservative pulleys, tune and initial run in. Pretty well I would say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5fyhtQ2SvM

WOW!! That's impressive!

 

[Petraszewsky]

Haha I'm researching this myself right now. I've found a few sites with stand alone trans controllers so far. Also ones with integrated controllers. Like this:

http://pbhperformance.com/shop/pbh-6r80-control-pack/

 

[ajonesny]

That PBH setup looks like the way to go.

 

[Scotty]

Ford announced two Coyote/transmission packages last November, at least I think it was November....

Part #: M-9000-PMCM includes the Coyote with the Tremec (manual) 6 Speed.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9000-PMCM - Approx. $16,000
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-9000-pmcm - Approx. $15,000

Part #: M-9000-PMCA is supposed to offer the Coyote with the 6R80 and the required controllers. It is not currently available.

A Facebook message from Ford Performance this morning says "Hi Scott, the manual is ready and we are putting the final calibration touches on the automatic version. Looking to have it available for sale by the end of October."

 

[k13evin]

15k to 16k. Wow. Why not buy a wrecked one and take everything

 

[Scotty]

15k to 16k. Wow. Why not buy a wrecked one and take everything

I think that's what other successful swaps have done. According to what I've read, the F-150 and Mustang PCM (engine controller) is a large part of an integrated system. The system actively seeks sensor readings from other components (transmission, ABS, security) and then responds, sometime by detuning the engine for safety. Those who have successfully swapped drive trains from wrecks have reprogrammed the PCM to not look for other, now absent components.

My research indicates that the PCM is transmission-specific (but can probably be re-flashed); the computer expecting an automatic but not finding one will detune the engine. The automatic transmission's controller communicates with the PCM to aid in shifting. It seems that Ford was rather secretive in protecting the shift algorithms; this may be why third-party controllers are only now becoming available.

*** this is only what i understand based on my reading/research. I am not an expert on any of this***