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Axial engine! Forget the coyote, I want one of these!

ntsqd

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Pie in the sky. Don't really expect it to go into production and meet all of the claims + emissions.
Same with this engine:
http://www.ecomotors.com/opposed-piston-opposed-cylinder-engine
crank-block-loop.gif

I do expect that the the ect will get used on other engines, assuming they continue to develop it.
http://www.ecomotors.com/electrically-controlled-turbocharger
 

navalbronco66

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Even if it would be made for automotive use, can you imagine the backlash from the EB community. I've gotten so much flack for going with an LS motor in my EB, this new motor isn't even in the ball park LOL.

Looks promising, but I see some POSSIBLE issues, almost like the rotary engine. First I wonder about fuel effiency. The rotary engine is not very fuel effient given its small size. Second torque isn't so great on the rotary engine. So I wonder on this new motor. These are possible issues I would look at if this axial motor ever made it to the automotive world. Looks promising I give it that. Also the fewer moving parts the better, which is in my opinion the Rotary engines biggest advantage. You can literally bounce off the rev limiter all day with hurting that motor :)
 

Airmapper

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I could see using something like this to provide electrical power to a battery pack, similar to a hybrid with the exception that the engine has no connection or intention of providing direct mechanical power to the drive line, only to provide electrical power generation. An application where it could maintain a constant RPM regardless of the vehicles situation at the time, the battery gives more energy than can be generated by the engine at any given time, and the system charges while demand is less than the engine provides.

In my opinion that would be the only way to take advantage of higher efficiency while still dealing with something that has no real grunt power. Electric motors can give all the torque you'd ever want, but that little engine could never generate it all at once.

I'm thinking of something similar to how trains and ships are powered by diesel power plants that provide electrical current for motors to do the actual grunt work.

The problem is the amount of energy required at any given time is probably going to max out the little axial engine, so you won't have ample enough durations of low demand for it to catch up with. Normal operation will be drawing on your surplus all the time. Also energy storage in itself is hard to come by, either it's really expensive, or weighs a ton.

Some people seem to think a lot of us gear heads are overall against progress when it comes to power plants, that we only want to suck petroleum gas into huge engines. I don't think that is the case at all, we just want to actually have power and aren't willing to give it up on a whim, show us a better way to get loads of power, and I bet most would be on board. (But I'd so miss the rumble of a gasoline engine.)

I'm all for alternative fuels and methods, but I have an exception, it actually has to work, and work reliably, before I want it. If I could get better performance than exists already out of an alternative power source, for the same expense, I'd be all over it.
 

broncosbybart

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Speaking off the cuff and just looking at the design, it appears that there would be very definite idle issues with the power stroke of this opposed engine, unless there are more cylinders down the line.
 

broncnaz

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Basic design has been around pretty much since cars were on the road. like to see a dyno chart on it but I have a feeling its going to have a steep curve and will need the RPMs to make the power once you hit that rpm no more power.
 

ntsqd

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Speaking off the cuff and just looking at the design, it appears that there would be very definite idle issues with the power stroke of this opposed engine, unless there are more cylinders down the line.
No more so than a 2-stroke dirt bike engine. It is a two-stroke, only with a turbo!
 

KyleQ

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I've gotten so much flack for going with an LS motor in my EB, this new motor isn't even in the ball park LOL.

That's because it's a Chevy motor and it's a LS - that platform has been bastardizing vehicles for quite some time... It's your vehicle, do what you want, but have a thick skin putting that engine in a vintage vehicle. I'm more annoyed seeing those motors in EB's than I am in Foxbody Mustangs...
 
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