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Question About Gear Ratio

ATLJrod

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My Bronco drives fine but I need to get it in 3rd in order to cruise along at 25 - 30mph. I believe this is because it's geared as an offroad vehicle right now. Will a higher gear ratio make it better to drive around in the city?

Also, I've read that you need to be precise when messing with the gears so I'll likely have a "pro" do it for me. Any idea what the cost might be?
 

golfobx

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stick with yukon or currie...and yes a pro is best served to get that kind of work done...i would say 600 or so per axle would be the going rate...but if you are gonna open them up, i would do a complete overhaul...all bearings and what not...
 

sprdv1

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Definitely a combination of things...

what's your current set up. Tires/wheels, Lift, motor, transmission.........
 

blubuckaroo

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My Bronco drives fine but I need to get it in 3rd in order to cruise along at 25 - 30mph. I believe this is because it's geared as an offroad vehicle right now. Will a higher gear ratio make it better to drive around in the city?

Also, I've read that you need to be precise when messing with the gears so I'll likely have a "pro" do it for me. Any idea what the cost might be?

Sounds to me like you may be running around with the transfer case shifted to 4 LO.
 
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ATLJrod

ATLJrod

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Sounds to me like you may be running around with the transfer case shifted to 4 LO.

I bought it in March and, to be honest, haven't touched the dual stick transfer case. I figured it was in 2 high when i took a look but might play around with it to see if that makes an impact.

Is there anything I should know about using the transfer case (ie transfer while stopped, in gear or neutral, etc.)?
 

Boss Hugg

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With twin sticks, be careful not to put the front axle in hi and the rear in low. Typically the sticks should be pushed forward for 4 wheel low, and in 4hi, to the rear. 2hi is the right stick pulled back and the left stick in the middle. you should be able to feel detents (notches) that tell you what position its in. If you put one in high and one in low, you WILL break something expensive.

But it sounds like you need to go to 4th gear for cruising. An automatic will go to direct drive any time it's not under a load.
 

DirtDonk

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And make sure the front lockouts are in the FREE or unlocked positions too. Just in case.
Not really supposed to run in 4wd with the hubs locked on the pavement anyway, but messing around with an unknown twin-stick setup just gives more room for more unknowns.;)

In your NV4500, first gear is not really for street use unless your differential gear ratios are mismatched to the tire size. So figuring second gear is your starting gear, shifting to third at 25-30 sounds totally reasonable to me.
A better tell would be to see what gear you need to be in at 55-65.

And yes, these things are often geared towards "utility" and off-road, but that's not always mutually-exclusive to driving on the street. The 5-speed with overdrive changed the dynamics totally.
You might even be using incorrect data to judge your shifts by too. Perhaps with your exhaust and engine noise, you think it's spinning faster than it really is. I know many of us have experienced that, even though we've been around engines all of our lives.
I know my own sounded like it was revving up way to high when I first bought it. But when I installed a tach I found out it was nowhere near where I thought it was. Very surprising to me. And a new exhaust changed that whole feel of revving to a much more normal (for me) level.

Since you can't know what was swapped into the differentials without checking or using a tachometer to verify engine speed vs road speed, there are other things you need to do before deciding to change the gear ratios.
Sounds like you're not going off-roading with your Bronco. That correct? More of a weekend fun-around-town and take the family on an outing now and then? Or do you plan to explore the hinterlands a bit sometime too?

Does your Bronco have a tachometer? If not, and you don't want one cluttering up the dash area, perhaps you can connect one temporarily for this test.
Do you have GPS device you can use to verify the speedometer? You might even be dealing with a completely misleading speedo reading due to the 35" tires. So that has to be verified as well.

If you can compare engine speed at a given verified road speed, you can figure out what gear ratios you have.
If your engine is carbureted, you would really want to be running at maybe 3000 rpm at 70 mph in 4th gear. Overdrive 5th would then take you down to about where that little engine pushing that brick through the air rolling on 35" tires needs to be.
But we can play with that as well.

And if you're more into needing it just how you like it around town vs on the highway, then you can play with gear ratio choices too.
But we need to know what you have now before you can make an informed decision on where to go.

Good luck.

Paul
 

sprdv1

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I bought it in March and, to be honest, haven't touched the dual stick transfer case. I figured it was in 2 high when i took a look but might play around with it to see if that makes an impact.

Is there anything I should know about using the transfer case (ie transfer while stopped, in gear or neutral, etc.)?

Yeah def check that out.. Depends on the vehicle temperament, haha. Usually neutral sitting still Some times may have to roll to get in or out
 
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ATLJrod

ATLJrod

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And make sure the front lockouts are in the FREE or unlocked positions too. Just in case.
Not really supposed to run in 4wd with the hubs locked on the pavement anyway, but messing around with an unknown twin-stick setup just gives more room for more unknowns.;)

In your NV4500, first gear is not really for street use unless your differential gear ratios are mismatched to the tire size. So figuring second gear is your starting gear, shifting to third at 25-30 sounds totally reasonable to me.
A better tell would be to see what gear you need to be in at 55-65.

And yes, these things are often geared towards "utility" and off-road, but that's not always mutually-exclusive to driving on the street. The 5-speed with overdrive changed the dynamics totally.
You might even be using incorrect data to judge your shifts by too. Perhaps with your exhaust and engine noise, you think it's spinning faster than it really is. I know many of us have experienced that, even though we've been around engines all of our lives.
I know my own sounded like it was revving up way to high when I first bought it. But when I installed a tach I found out it was nowhere near where I thought it was. Very surprising to me. And a new exhaust changed that whole feel of revving to a much more normal (for me) level.

Since you can't know what was swapped into the differentials without checking or using a tachometer to verify engine speed vs road speed, there are other things you need to do before deciding to change the gear ratios.
Sounds like you're not going off-roading with your Bronco. That correct? More of a weekend fun-around-town and take the family on an outing now and then? Or do you plan to explore the hinterlands a bit sometime too?

Does your Bronco have a tachometer? If not, and you don't want one cluttering up the dash area, perhaps you can connect one temporarily for this test.
Do you have GPS device you can use to verify the speedometer? You might even be dealing with a completely misleading speedo reading due to the 35" tires. So that has to be verified as well.

If you can compare engine speed at a given verified road speed, you can figure out what gear ratios you have.
If your engine is carbureted, you would really want to be running at maybe 3000 rpm at 70 mph in 4th gear. Overdrive 5th would then take you down to about where that little engine pushing that brick through the air rolling on 35" tires needs to be.
But we can play with that as well.

And if you're more into needing it just how you like it around town vs on the highway, then you can play with gear ratio choices too.
But we need to know what you have now before you can make an informed decision on where to go.

Good luck.

Paul

Dirtdonk,

Thanks for the detailed response! I know the speedometer on the digital dash is correct because i found one of those speed limit signs that clocks you and drove by it about 4 times..I've always been starting from first but your post makes perfect sense. To be honest, i didn't know starting from a standstill to second was even an option :-[

I checked and I'm in 2 wheel high (right stick back and left in neutral). I'll check to make sure the hubs aren't locked but I think i remember doing that when i get it off the truck.

It is a carb that probably needs to be tuned. Havent' done that since its moved from Texas to Atlanta
 
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