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MagnaFlow Dual Exhaust Kit

DirtDonk

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Good question. You would think that with the proliferation of Magnaflow products over the years that someone would have tried them. But I sure don't remember hearing of anyone (here at least) installing one.
Hope they have and see this thread. Very interested to see how it worked out.

Especially with a larger, custom swapped-in auto, as that can make a huge difference of course, as I'm sure you're figuring. Since they won't list that as part of the fitment notes most likely (did you check on that yet by any chance?) it's up to someone having tried it and won the battle of real-estate under a Bronco!

Good luck.

Paul
 
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Forgot to add, too bad that it's a dual exhaust though.
Cool and all, and with that X-pipe probably sounds great. But duals on Broncos are a never-again thing for me. Never again...

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I'm probably the minority here but I prefer an H-pipe to an X-pipe. In my experience, the H-pipe has that old school V8 growl at lower RPM's. That being said, crossing the X just behind the transfer case probably makes for a very clean install.
 

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I prefer whatever fits best, when it comes to EB's due to some awkward areas under there. But if an X-pipe I actually think they should make some with a higher volume instead of just that small joint.
There are some larger than others, but I think this is another area where experimentation would be good. Not necessarily for EB's of course, where every last 1/2 horsepower is not so coveted. But mostly in car power wars, where it is.

Bottom line for me though is that a single exhaust doesn't need a crossover of any kind. And good 2.5" single is all that's needed for 90% of EB users.
Of course, that said I'm still running a full dual system. It's all down the passenger side though, to keep the driver's side clear.

There's a great discussion about the differences on Engine Masters on YouTube. They all had their preferences too, and if I remember they liked the sound of the H-pipe crossover style better as well.
I forget which one actually made more power, but it wasn't a big difference between the two anyway I don't think.
Good watching if you haven't seen it already. Great way to waste 17 minutes in other words!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCio5K0WfHU&index=4&list=PLGvTvFzdMg_O2T3UdUEt5dIHutSOu7srE

Paul
 
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Dandesjar

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Thanks guys. I'll probably email MagnaFlow and see what they have to say. The fitment specs on their site only say that it will fit '66-'77 Broncos but doesn't specify a tranny. I'm assuming that if they tell me it will fit with the OEM C4 tranny then it will likely fit with the AOD. I don't think there is a huge difference in size between the two.
 

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Do you have headers?
I would not necessarily assume that because it fits with a C4 that it will fit with the larger AOD. But hey, we can hope!
Crossing fingers that it works with your setup.

But if they're like all other exhaust companies, they will tell you flat out that "we don't know because it was only tested on this Bronco or that" or something to that effect.
The header companies simply have a mantra that "no, it will NOT fit in that application" but that's just code for "we didn't test it, so you're on your own" in other words.

Have you looked at the Duff and Bronco Hut setups? I know Duff offers options on the style of muffler and there was a thread here not long ago about the Hut system.
I like Magnaflow, so not trying to dissuade you from your course necessarily. But wanted to make sure you knew there were options.

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Dandesjar

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I have Hooker headers. I haven't looked too closely at the Duff or Bronco Hut setups yet. I'm in Canada so the shipping & duty is usually pretty pricey. The main reason I was interested in the MagnaFlow kit is that I can get a good price from a Canadian supplier.
Does anyone make a setup that ties in directly to a set of Hooker headers? I'm assuming I'll have to get some custom down pipes made for my setup no matter which route I go.
 

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Correct. I'm sure no exhaust manufacturer makes theirs to fit with all headers (as a direct-fit that is) unless they have their own as an option. With generally 20 or more different designs of headers for any given vehicle, it's hard to fit them all.
The trick to that would be to make that first section behind the stock exhaust manifolds separate so they can be removed and tweaked to fit different headers.

Not sure how many do that, but even though I'm sure they like to keep additional joints and seams to a minimum, it seems like that would open up a lot of options.
It does kind of look like that's what they intend with the system you listed. The pic shows it just ending in a flat-ish section. Seems like it's long enough to reach, but at that angle it can't possibly be designed to mate up to the stock exhaust without an additional piece.
Maybe they intend it to be used with long-tube headers and anything else is just added at the time of the install.

Paul
 

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Thanks guys. I'll probably email MagnaFlow and see what they have to say. The fitment specs on their site only say that it will fit '66-'77 Broncos but doesn't specify a tranny. I'm assuming that if they tell me it will fit with the OEM C4 tranny then it will likely fit with the AOD. I don't think there is a huge difference in size between the two.
I looked at the magnaflow system when I did my drivetrain. It's what they call a crossmember back system. I like the tailpipes and mufflers but i doubt it's going to be quiet and you are going to have to have an exhaust shop do the hardest part. Routing from shorty header clearing front driveshaft and crossmember. This will cost you. Also From what I saw i thought it would hang lower than a 2 into 1 staying on passenger side. I also called magnaflow claiming I had bent my passenger tailpipe #1 to see if they would sell replacement items as I'm sure we have all trashed a tailpipe or two backing into a rock.... they wouldn't sell me a tailpipe outright. Said I had to buy the whole system again....

Honestly the exhaust and the machine work on the bare block is the only part of my frame off drivetrain Upgrade I farmed out. It's also the only part I'm still not happy with. Love the BC headers but their system has no tailpipe and because I did the M5R2 didn't really work out. I ended up at a local exhaust shop. They loved the truck and we're complimentary of the work I had done and then just kinda slapped a system together booger welded where I asked for flanges and kinked real bad at bends.

Honestly I wish I had access to a bender! System sounds stockish at idle with an 18" magnaflow but feel like I gave up 25 horsepower and kills me everytime I get under the truck.

Monster mike, does that new bender of yours fit in the back of the RV??



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Bummer to have gone through all that Joe. And for something that is, in theory at least, a fairly simple affair.
I've used the same exhaust shop in my town for literally 48 years now. Three generations of owners now working with the grandson of the original owner. And I still have to fight them sometimes while trying to drag them into the new world order. They don't like crossovers/x-pipes/H-pipes because they think they're bad for performance. Guess they don't read car magazines!
But I'm going to make my own the next time I think. I might let them do the final welding, but I'm really thinking of buying a "kit" of tubing and rolling my own, so to speak.

Going to try it with my '79 pickup first. Not sure I really need to re-do the one in my Bronco yet, but it's still an option on the table.
The kits come with mandrel bends, straights, probably flanges and junctions and all that stuff.
I'm a single-exhaust kind of guy nowadays as I think I said, and although I prefer to merge my two banks into one further upstream, likely the easier way to merge when you're making your own would be by utilizing the muffler with a 2-inlet, 1-outlet setup.

I'd like to hear and see more of the Duff kits when Mike has time to chime back in. I like ready-made stuff too, but usually it's best when your rig is still relatively stock. I've gone local always because I had my own ideas of how tubing should be routed.
Transmission and transfer case swaps are a key reason some kits don't fit. Guessing theirs takes at least some of that into account, so interested to see how they work.

I think there are some threads about them hereabouts as well. Don't remember details though.

good luck with all the hunting.

Paul
 

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Just had the magna flow with x pipe and dual installed on my stock 302,( stock except timing chain) stock exhaust manifolds so had to have pipes made from manifolds to cross member as the kit is from cross member back.
Removed the original y pipe and they fabricated 2-1/2” pipes to bolt up and drop back to cross member.
sound and performance upgrade for sure. Love the look of the dual out the sides. The x pipe seems to work well with the stock manifolds to have adequate back pressure.The down shift when you step on it sounds great and sets me back in my seat more than before.

The installation is OK, I had asked them to be sure and keep it up as high as possible. They ended up flipping the mufflers upside down to get them higher, and modified some hangers, but ended up pinching my safety brake cable a little. Not sure why following the instructions wasn’t working for them...but new mufflers are higher than original one was and the end result is it sounds and drives better and the underside looks good too
 
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