I had a credit at Amazon so I had them send a set. Easy to return if they are the same.Ordered from the same source, or an alternate?
I wasn't aware of these sliding joints, thanks for sharing.This is 100% true for Early Broncos. But keep in mind that the upper ball joints in newer axles are not ball joints. They are just called "ball joints" when they don't even have a ball. They are actually sliding joints, or cylindrical joints. It's just a pin with a hat. These will slide up to 1/8 inch axially quite easily. And they spin super easy. You can drive yourself crazy trying to keep them from spinning on the taper.
Here's a cutaway pic of a factory sliding upper ball joint from Moog. Lots of Wranglers and Ram trucks get "ball joint deleted" as well.
AGAIN, not applicable to the open knuckle D44 from 71-79. Apologies to @toddz69 for my 2.5 year delay in responding to your post in the other thread. When I leave for vacation, I don't always catch back up.
I'm curious what you get. I've heard counterfeits are common on Amazon. Mind sharing the link?I had a credit at Amazon so I had them send a set. Easy to return if they are the same.
Sounds pretty safe.It’s from the spicer store so I was curious.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018OGII9G/?tag=classicbroncos-20
Thanks for sharing that info James.... good stuff!This is 100% true for Early Broncos. But keep in mind that the upper ball joints in newer axles are not ball joints. They are just called "ball joints" when they don't even have a ball. They are actually sliding joints, or cylindrical joints. It's just a pin with a hat. These will slide up to 1/8 inch axially quite easily. And they spin super easy. You can drive yourself crazy trying to keep them from spinning on the taper.
Here's a cutaway pic of a factory sliding upper ball joint from Moog. Lots of Wranglers and Ram trucks get "ball joint deleted" as well.
AGAIN, not applicable to the open knuckle D44 from 71-79. Apologies to @toddz69 for my 2.5 year delay in responding to your post in the other thread. When I leave for vacation, I don't always catch back up.
I've thrown away D44 ball joints with less play/slop than those exhibited.Jeff’s refunded me for the ball joints. They said the play was normal but the end play was not. I disagree. I ordered another set of spicers just to see another set. (my curiosity)
Exactly!I've thrown away D44 ball joints with less play/slop than those exhibited.
It was loose also. The only set that was decent was the larger Label one.How was the relative looseness/tightness on that one?
I’m going go to Napa Monday to see. They had to order them in. Will report back.Did you say whether or not you have stopped by any local auto parts store and tested one off the shelf?
Any brand? Or better yet, multiple brands?
I’d like to think somebody has at least some that are normal-tight to compare to.






