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200 inline 6 - preferred carb and air cleaner?

BeardedBlues

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My air cleaner has seen better days (long ago and far away) and all I am finding is air cleaners for 8 Cyl. Anyone have a suggestion?

Also, is there a preferred carb for this motor? PO installed a new carb to get it running before he sold it to me and I'm betting it's not a high quality one. I have not made any mods to the motor yet and am not sure if I will be upgrading to a V8 or not. I just need to get this baby on the road and reliable for now.
 

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Classic inlines sells adapters to use standard air cleaner assemblys on the autolite 1100 carbs. Not sure what the size of your carbs filter neck is but there are air cleaners availible out there. just find out what size your neck is and go to summit racing you can break list down to only the size you need.
As for carbs will there's not much out there only a few 1 barrel carbs that fit your engine so I doubt your going to improve upon much. But it would help to know what carb you do have. Autolite 1100s are common as are carter YF carbs might also see a holley 1904 from time to time all work. Might be a few other different carbs but I doubt you will find anything better.
 

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air cleaner

Way back about 1995 or so I put a 200 in my 66 and I got one of those generic round housings, chrome on top, at Napa or Grand Auto.
 

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Have you looked at classicinlines.com or fordsix.com

How do you like the engine? Enough power? I am going to look at one for sale.
 
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I did look at those two sites but I have multiple problems now and have found out that my engine has a Born On Date of 1978 hehe. So, right now I have a 1978 inline 200 that has a PCV valve for a 74 inline 200, a fuel pump for a 1978 Fairmont (and I don't think it's pushing enough fuel) and the only way my motor will run without oxygen starvation is if I completely remove the breather assembly.

See the thread here:
http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205312


I got the Bronco 3 months ago and have not been on a relaxing ride yet so I don't really know anything about how well it should do. The area I come from was "Bronco Rich" back in the day and several people have told me that the 200 will do really well in the mud due to not spinning the tires right away.
 
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Here is the carb that I have now. I'm not sure if it's supposed to even work with this engine.
 

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there's a new guy on here, 66warpony, that is using a weber 32/36 DGEV on his. ya may wanna contact him about where he got an adapter...

I don't know about the specific application, but I do know that the weber DGEV is a good carb. I have the same model on an old subaru, and even though it's waaay too big for the motor, it runs so much better than it did stock. easy to work on, and offroads good too!
 
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Thanks for the tip on the Weber I will look into it.


I just did some more troubleshooting and the when I shut the hood on the Bronco, the hood presses down on the air cleaner which presses down on the automatic choke and causes the motor to miss and sputter. I can reproduce this issue by just pressing down on the automatic choke. The hood isn't dented in so it has to be a carb height issue.
 
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Anyone have measurements or can get measurements of their 200 carbs so I can compare and purchase a new one if it will make a difference? I have measurements in two different places in the pictures below. Do I need to put a hood scoop so this carb can fit? hehe
 

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air cleaner

It may be easier to find a lower profile air cleaner or get a carb hat, some hose and a air cleaner box off a later vehicle from picnpul. If it runs good with the carb it has I would leave it on there. Did you drive it with out the air cleaner to see how it runs? My 66 with a 170 had a housing that fit on top of the carb with a passageway to a housing for the oil as it was an oil bath air cleaner. I think later Bronco sixes used the same housing but with a paper filter element. Someone on here may have one they will sell to you.
Or a 1" body lift.
 

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I have a 79 Fairmont air cleaner that I was using on mine. I went back to the original Oil Bath cleaner when I changed carbs. If you want, it its yours for the price of shipping. Shoot me a message if you want to give it a shot or want me to send some photos. Been trying to give it away for a year now.
 

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i had a weber on my samurai, really woke it up. i heard of problems with them dumping fuel off camber though, but there's a few easy mods to stop that from happening.
 

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Anyone have measurements or can get measurements of their 200 carbs so I can compare and purchase a new one if it will make a difference? I have measurements in two different places in the pictures below. Do I need to put a hood scoop so this carb can fit? hehe

Can you remove that EGR/spacer? Doesn't look like its hooked up.
 
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BmBm, I am probably going to go with a 2" BL but I wasn't really ready to pull the trigger on that upgrade yet. The Low profile air cleaner might work but it would have to drop on the side of the motor, I think.

CasadeJohnson, Thanks for the offer. I'd be willing to bet the air cleaner I have now is original. It just doesn't have enough room under the hood for some reason.

Explorer, the bottom/mounting part of the carb would be too wide and would not bolt down if I took the EGR/spacer off.

Rae61, That looks about like what I have. Mine has a pretty deep indention on the bottom half. I'm not sure if all are made this way or not.



I spoke with 66WarPony and the top of his air cleaner is 7 5/8" above the manifold and he has about 1" of hood clearance. The top of my air cleaner is about 7" above the manifold and the hood is smashing down on my air cleaner.

I have pictures of my motor mounts below and I guess I should have taken pictures of where the frame mounts to the chassis.
 
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Would a hood scoop help resolve this issue even though the carb is mounted more towards one side?
 

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... It looks like the carb that my Buddys 200 had on it .. I think it too was the YF.. wHEN THEY ARE GOOD their fine carbs . We used his in the mountains in New Mexico and it bounced around just fine .. RIM18 ask if the 200 was a good motor .. I say yes just enough motor if you have the NP435 behind it with 4:11's .. 1st year we took it hunting he still had the 3 speed it was not enough for some of the climbs but the next year we'd added the NP435 & all was well.
.... Then he swapped over to a V8 ..It was worse the 1st year ever rock he went over it died.. Pitched the gas out of the carb. Sent that carb to a different rebuilder and they made it better not perfect but much better.
 

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I run a weber 32/36 on my 200cid. the motor is out of a 79 fairmont. I have it mounted with a stovebolt adapter and a dura spark 2 ignition. Mine runs at all angles I've tried and I have had very few problems.
 

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carb hits hood

Would a hood scoop help resolve this issue even though the carb is mounted more towards one side?

Sure would but that might end the opportunity for a windshield drop (unless it's a low scoop) when wanted. I need that for getting 2 some of my job sites (ster. wheel is highest point & I have a '78 FSB 'tilt' 2 put in given X & $ for some of the jobs later). However a scoop can go anywhere, U just should look 1st to C if U can avoid cutting too many of the supports that cross the underside of the hood. U don't need much room & could even center it & the 'tail area' of the slope on it would still give U enuff room. Just tilt the hood back outta ur way & you'll C how much U need. Measure the hight w/cardboard or an arched piece of strapin you've flexed enuff to rep the true hood clearance.
The only tower & mount I can C is in pic "3 of 5" & it looks standard. May B a Maverick tower is lower. Some "hard mount" to reduce hight, I wouldn't. U can also 'slot' the tower (elongate the bolt hole vertically lower). I also wouldn't move the motor backward but some do that to gain hood space.
Look into lower carbs. There R several options for me w/the 250. Not sure if as low as RBS but Autolite 1100/01 seem lower than ur YF but IS 4 ur app.
BL and SL will help (the SL surprised me) either or both (all that's needed is 1 inch).
Lastly (may B), is another stock, fabed or store bought a/c. I have 1 (OEM) that is only 3/8 inch high (or so) that mounts offa peg from the engine beside the valve cover.
We can go on to more esoteric and expensive but PM me 4 that if needed after U try the above. This should B enuff 4 ya.
So there's 8 ideas, as I said on frd6 'deze bronks have notoriously low hoods' and a combo of all or several of the above will do U juss fahn.
Good luck - keep us informed how yado.
 
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I spoke with 66WarPony and the top of his air cleaner is 7 5/8" above the manifold and he has about 1" of hood clearance. The top of my air cleaner is about 7" above the manifold and the hood is smashing down on my air cleaner.

I have pictures of my motor mounts below and I guess I should have taken pictures of where the frame mounts to the chassis.

Hey jeff, I didn't think about this until going back and rereading some of the posts, but what year head do you have on there? Ford made several different heads with different intake mani volumes/flow capacities/shapes... for example 69 Mustangs came with a flat top log head, bigger intake mani and intake valves; the year of the head may have a different carb base height. The head I have is from a early 68 mustang. You may want to decode your head and look into that. Here's where I found the info to decode my head:

http://www.geocities.ws/mustang_man_1966/ford_partnumber_decoder.html

Are you on fordsix forum yet?
 
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