A couple suspension questions

[Nightstick]

I'm gonna order my suspension lift today and just have a few questions for you guys. I'm ordering from WH so unless anothers product is substantially better just give opinions on the listed parts.

1. Would you recommend the Wrap Trap? Mostly street use but some off-road. Keep in mind I have a pretty built up motor that'll be puttng out some darn good torque (if it starts).

2 Going with a 3.5" SL, are the WH long travel shock towers sufficient, or are the F250 towers THAT much better?

3 Are WH shocks pretty good, or should I piece the kit together and get ranchos, procomp, etc?

4. Rear inboard shock hoop, good?

Thanks!

 

[broncnaz]

You'll probably need the wrap trap if you have a lot of torque and plan on getting on it.
I believe the WH shock towers are F250 type.
Last shocks I ordered ffrom WH were PRocomp with out the procomp sticker but its been awhile.
I dont think I'd run the inboard rear shock hoop for a street mostly bronco they tend to induce body roll.

 

[Nightstick]

You'll probably need the wrap trap if you have a lot of torque and plan on getting on it.

Um, yes!;D

Izzy took me for a ride in his rig yesterday, which bumped my level motivation. I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of power his modestly modifed 302 has. That 351 I built is gonna SCREAM!!! Only other bronco I've been in is mine with the tired factory 302 in it, no comparison.

Thanks

 

[needabronco]

With a 3.5" leaf spring, I'm not 100% sure you'll need the wrap trap, unless your planning to hot rod it.

As for the inboard shock mounts, I'd pass for a street rig, maybe do the Shock jock with one shock.

The long travel shock towers they sell are the Superduty towers, they allow a longer shock and they allow you a better selection for shocks.

I'd add Bilsteins instead myself, althought thier shocks will do.

 

[Nightstick]

Hot rod, probably not, but I can't make any promises. It seems like some added insurance though, and is cheaper than replacing the parts that would break if I needed it and didn't have it.

Question about drop track bar brackets... I'm going to reinforce the area around the frame mount to avoid the frame cracking (death wobble), if I put say 5/16" plates on it won't it cause the track bar not to line up with the bracket? Would an adjustable track bar solve that problem if so?

 

[surfer-b]

Question about drop track bar brackets... I'm going to reinforce the area around the frame mount to avoid the frame cracking (death wobble), if I put say 5/16" plates on it won't it cause the track bar not to line up with the bracket? Would an adjustable track bar solve that problem if so?

If you are going to cut the bracket off and weld the plate where the bracket was removed then weld the bracket back into place, then yes it will move the mounting hole in 5/16", and yes an adjustable track bar will take care of this. I need to clarify this, if you only weld one side then it will move it however if you do both it will stay in the same location. I would do as others said and use a riser, its less stress on the frame.

 

[bmc69]

Auto or manual tranny? If the latter, I would say definitely yes on the Wrap Trap. If auto..you would probably be OK without one.

 

[Nightstick]

ZF tranny... I could just modify the bracket and integrate it into the plates so there'd be no change to the measurements and therefore no need for an adjustable track bar.

 

[bigjhoov]

wrap trap-no. Build your own.

the stock towers are fine for a street rig.

WH house brand are generic Doetsch, Procomp, etc.. style shocks I believe. Just a generic gas shock. They work fine. I've ran 'em.

I'd pass on the inboard hoop too. Moving them in creates a little more body roll in the truck.

 

[blwngsket]

Use a trac bar riser on the axle instead of a drop bracket. Your frame will thank you ...... I had a wild horses 5.5" with everything, front and rear, including the wrap trap. I now have the front half of that kit and the Duff's 4 link in the rear with a sway bar. My 5.0 is running a strong comp cam and edelbrock heads.
Love it, great flex and road manners. I am running a Currie sway bar in the rear also.

 

[Nightstick]

wrap trap-no. Build your own.

I don't mind having to do that, ony issue is I know nothing about them other than the picture in the WH catalog. From what I can see there's a bracket welded to the axle housing and frame with a bar running between them. I have access to a badass plasma cutter that I could use for the brackets and I can weld, so half the equation is solved.

 

[surfer-b]

I'd pass on the inboard hoop too. Moving them in creates a little more body roll in the truck.

I agree with this, however I stated the same in another post and others said it would not. The only way I would see it not creating more body roll is if the shocks were valved stiffer.

 

[bigjhoov]

I don't mind having to do that, ony issue is I know nothing about them other than the picture in the WH catalog. From what I can see there's a bracket welded to the axle housing and frame with a bar running between them. I have access to a badass plasma cutter that I could use for the brackets and I can weld, so half the equation is solved.

search "anti-wrap" that'll get you started. Keep it simple.

Make brackets or get 'em here...http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Radius-Arm-Ladder-Bar-Mounts-2-pieces_p_1167.html

Here's mine....

 

[Nightstick]

Sweet, thanks!

 

[6daze]

The wrap trap is great. Worth the cost to weld on and go. But if you can weld and fabricate, you can save some cash...

I would upgrade to bilsteins or fox shocks on f-250 towers and shock jock type rears.

 

[Nightstick]

Any specific bilstein shock? The sites ivebeen to so far sort by vehicle and of course early broncos aren't a choice.

What's so great about the shock jocks?

 

[mavereq]

the shock jocks allow you keep the shocks outboard and still run longer shocks. they're single sheer. if you can fabricate you can probably come up with something better.

 

[Nightstick]

So I ordered the WH rear leaf kit, Wrap Trap, Long travel front shock mounts, and warflares during the black friday sale. I was just gonna get the whole suspension system, but I couldn't pass up the deal on the flares.

As it turns out my awesome wife said I could spend another $1k as my christmas present, so I'm gonna order some more parts. I'm gonna get the 351 oil pan and the rest of the suspension parts from BCB with the exception of the shocks.

Here's the question... I ordered the 3.5" leafs from WH, can I use the 3.5" coils from BCB and get the same result as the WH springs? What degree C bushings do I get with that lift?

Also, for those of you running Bilstein shocks are you using the 5100 series like these?

 

[6daze]

Your results may vary but in my experience the leaf springs need to be about 1" taller than the coils.

For example I run 5.5" leafs with 4.5" coils. My rig sits about level. Both from BC.

Those shocks are the bare minimum. You are better off running something from the 7100 series bilstein or 2.0 fox. The recommended valving is not available (at least for the front) in the 5100 series.

Search bilstein valving and you will find good info. Something like 360/80 front and 275/55 rear.

 

[Nightstick]

For a few days I had settled on the Rancho 9000xl shocks, but after reading some more threads people seem to LOVE the bilsteins. So... I guess I'll go ahead and get those.

I have a few questions for those of you running the 7100/5125 combo... What length shock are you using with a 3.5" suspension lift? If you chose to run 7100s at all four corners would the shock jock be required for that?