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Bilstein valving question

Green_Bastard

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I just got a set of Bilstein front shocks from Tom's to match their shock hoop with a 3.5" lift. The part number that I received is 33-186559. When I look this up, it looks like the valving is 160/57. However, when I look at the Bilstein's on WH, they appear to be 255/70. Anyone know if this information is correct and if the valving for the 33-186559 is wrong for the front of an EB?
 
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Also, from what I've read, the 5125 can be mounted can up or down. Does anyone know if this is correct also?
 

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I would say that if the Bilstein book calls out a certain valving for a part number, that would be what you'd go by. At least initially. Even they can make a mistake when things get printed!
Or the could have changed them. For example my older book (not sure where my new one is) shows that shock as being a 175/60 valving spec.

I would assume (hate to use that word here!) that the shocks you got from Tom's are likely selected with light valving for use in a multi-shock application? Seems logical at any rate, being recommended with the multi-shock hoops. Or, as we run into sometimes, that valve package was the only one available in a shock that was just the right length for the mount.
A direct comparison to ours is difficult until we confirm the part number is the same. We may not be using the same shock number with our hoop as they do with theirs.
Easy enough to find out on Monday though.

Which WH part number are you comparing to by the way? I can verify the valving for you if you'd like.
And something I did not mention in that thread Steve mentioned, is that I do have at least several customers using the lighter 255/70 on front shock applications to good effect.
This is most often to get the proper shock length when using the long-travel single shock mount (F250 style) that replace the stock shock mounts. Sometimes there just isn't a properly sized 5100 with the heavier valving. Makes paying more for the 7100's a little more appealing.
Sometimes...

So far, only one customer I can remember said they were lighter than he'd like. But was still going to run them because they were still working passably well. The others said they liked them just as they are.
So it's hard to say what is going to make one owner happy and another one, not so much.

And lastly, to your main concern, even though I'd initially say that when used in a single shock application that valving would be lighter than most of us would like, I can't say that for certain.
Reason being the numbers Bilstein uses don't always have a direct correlation to what we might expect. In other words, the 160/57 isn't necessarily going to be close to 40% softer than the 298/94 would be. As the numbers alone might indicate.
Generally speaking though, yes the lower the numbers the softer the dampening. But this is why they have a tech line! In case we can't come up with the precise differences as they equate to the real world.

I would also suspect that if you install them but find they are way too soft for your use, you could get the proper ones swapped out by Tom's without too much drama. You might call first though, and verify they don't expect you to use them as a dual application.
Just in case, right?;)

And speaking of which... What is your intended use? Street only, or different types of off-roading adventuring?

Thanks. Good luck.

Paul
 

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My recommendation is to mount it whichever way puts the decal in the correctly oriented position.
Hard to go wrong that way, and it looks better to my mind as well.

Some Bilstein models are actually intended to mount with the shaft down and the body up.

Paul
 

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From Summitt's website: 170/60 valving recommended for use on dual shock setups, 11.00 in. travel.
 
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I talked to Jason at TBP this morning. Those are setup for duals and can be oriented either way. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making another stupid mistake. Thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated.
 

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Good to know. Will you get a different shock then, or run them as duals after all?
Or perhaps run this one by itself anyway to see how you like it?

Definitely report back how you like them no matter which way you go.

Paul
 
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