Building Bronco garage - pics! 11/27/05 UPDATE

[bigpappa]

Sweet looking garage, but I want one of those trees that grows bronco tops ;D

I would not mind having one of thoes myself.

Nice looking garage. With the heating thing. How deep are the tubes? My point being if you have to drill down to install a floor stand for a bender or install a lift what is the probability of hitting a line?

 

[crab]

I would not mind having one of thoes myself.

Nice looking garage. With the heating thing. How deep are the tubes? My point being if you have to drill down to install a floor stand for a bender or install a lift what is the probability of hitting a line?

We use a wire mat that the pipe ties to then centered in the slab. So the pipe would be 2-3" under the finished floor. Make sure you are accurate when installing the pipe (12" on center on way or the other). That way you will know where you can put anchors.

 

[broncomanbrad]

Up here in Canada we tend to do that a lot in newer houses. I just finished building my brother-in-law's house and we did that. If I ever make a house/garage from the ground up that's the way I'm going. When it passed the -40 situation without problems I knew it was the way to go.

What size tractor are you putting in their? Just a riding lawn mower, or a small tractor?

 

[HotWheels]

Awesome. Giving me ideals for my garage project come spring. Need more space for Broncos.

 

[Mark]

I would......but did you buy yours locally or mail order?

bought locally,
I'll put that detailed list up this weekend

 

[Mark]

What size tractor are you putting in their? Just a riding lawn mower, or a small tractor?

It's a small 20hp tractor (not riding lawnmower) - you can see it in the background of one of the photos, it's red. ;D

 

[4x4x289]

i envy you and jr nice. i dream of owning a garage like that. maybe someday. i want a bathroom (pisser) in it, a wet bar in one corner with checkered floor, bar stools made from mag rims, frig, and a tv. and a paint booth on one quad. and a big friggen i beam and electric winch to pull engines. some day. some day.

 

[CHALKOUTLINE]

WOW!!! That's great! Did I read that right, you only have $1K (about) in the floor heating system? I am about to build a shop too. 36x36 with 10' walls made from ICF (insulated concrete forms) with scissored trusses so the peak inside will be about 15 to 16'. The ICF walls have an unequalled R insulating value as well as sound-deadening and fire resistance. I had not considered a radient floor heat system (until now). I live in the Sacramento Valley (In CA). Temps get down to the 30's on occation in the winter (with highs in the upper 50's low 60's range on those days). No snow but cold enough to be uncomfortable. I guess I will be looking into the Floor heater. Rock on! Keep the pics coming.

 

[ken75ranger]

Chalk, For you it might be cheaper to go heat pump instead of a water heater. Especially if it stays above 30 deg.

 

[BRONKEN]

CHALK, tell me more about the ICF walls? i'm curious.

 

[ransil]

Try this

http://www.icfweb.com/products/default.asp

I have been looking for ICF, radiant floors Metal roofs and spray foam insulation in my area for a few years the new technology just doesn't find id way to western pennsylvania.

 

[CHALKOUTLINE]

Icf

The ICF is basically foam building blocks with rebar reinforced concrete pumped into them. Two of the guys that I work with have built there houses out of them. There are several companies that do it. They offer different thicknesses for different applications. The thicker the wall the higher the R insulating value and sound deadening obviously. In Cali. I have two big Co/brands Rastra and Arxx. The foam is cut with normal tools, you can do arches, radius walls, round windows, whatever you like. If you google those they will give you the details. Big pluses besides the R value and sound-deadening is the fire resistance. The foam will NOT support flame, gives like a 4 hr fire wall . Also It has a great structural integrity for those pesky earthquakes (although I have lived here 30yrs and only felt 1) but you can insert the natural disaster/mother nature act for your area of the country. You sheetrock the inside and put whatever you want on the outside, Stucco, wood siding, etc. Electrical and plumbing is run by cutting the foam away after the concrete sets up. Holes for utilities that go through the wall obviously need to be pre-planned. On the outside I am going to use Hardi-Board. It is a concret/fiber that Can't rot,burn, and bugs can't eat it. It will match the house so it should look good. The local contact that I spoke with said that at the current price of wood the total cost should be about 5% more for he ICF build vs conventional, but that's in CA. Look into it, you guys should at least consider it. Good luck.

 

[CHALKOUTLINE]

Thanks Ken, I will explore the options.

 

[BRONKEN]

That 5% is not bad at considering on what you gain. I live just a couple hours from Sac. and I'm required to put sprinklers in the building at a cost of over 10K. I bet if I went with concrete I would not have to install the sprinkler system. Definitely something worth checking into. Thanks for the info.

 

[CHALKOUTLINE]

Holy Crap!!!!! 10k for a sprinkler sysytem!!! Ouch!!! If that were the case for me I would be out of luck. I hope you can get by without them. Good luck.

 

[j.r.nice]

Hey Mark

I am really interested in the radiant heat, seems like the best of all worlds. I am concerned about 1 thing. What do you do if you need/want to drill into the floor later on to install stuff like compressors or lifts? Did they give you any idea?

Thanks

J. R.

 

[Fathom]

Thermal Imager

I have one at work, it is great. I can see the studs in an exterior wall.

If the lines are puting off heat, it will see it.......

A too cool tool

Fathom

 

[Mark]

Hey Mark I am really interested in the radiant heat, seems like the best of all worlds. I am concerned about 1 thing. What do you do if you need/want to drill into the floor later on to install stuff like compressors or lifts? Did they give you any idea? Thanks J. R.

J.R. I agree, a warm floor will make the whole garage seem warmer even if the air temperature is the same in a garage using a propane, kerosene, or other "air heater". Warm air rising from the floor ..ahhhhhh... I hope I don't fall asleep under the Bronco!! ;D
I don't intend on drilling into my floor so I didn't plan for it. If I do I'll stay shallow and keep it less than 3" deep (is that deep enough for anchor bolts?) Since you're thinking ahead about this you can mark where your water lines are, they're spaced 1 foot apart. so as long as you know where the lines are, you'll have room for drilling.
BTW I'll post that detailed parts list and a website to my supplier also. You can get all the stuff at your local place.

P.S. I just read Fathom's post about the thermal imager!
COOL! Because like I said, I didn't mark where my lines are.

 

[Mark]

Looks great, It'll be nice to have it done before winter gets bad. ;D I started the grading for my shop today. It's been a 2 1/2 year project to get to this point but i'm stoked to finally get started. Mine will be slightly larger at 4,100 sq ft with 18ft side walls I will be starting a thread soon to detail the progress.

That's a BIG-A$$ building. I wish I could've gone that big. Never enough space though - .. err with 4K square feet THAT's enough space!
I'll be looking for that thread! ;D
Is that expensive sprinkling system gonna put a dent in your design plans?

 

[Mark]

When I build my garage, I want to apply this...http://www.ucoatit.com/

Thanks luvmybronco! ;D This was on another thread. I've been struggling with this decision on what to coat the concrete floor with, but I'm going with www.ucoatit.com
plain light gray I think.