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Electric voltage while running.

FrankSG

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I’m having an electrical issue with my 1993 5.0 fuel injected motor. Specific is the voltage at the battery while running. The battery is brand new and reading 12.5 - 12.75 V. I’ve also had the alternator load tested and it’s fine. Checked all the connections and wiring seemed fine as well. One key turn in the engine starts right up, but when I checked the voltage while running with everything turned on I’m still only reading 12.5 to 12.75 at the battery/ cables. After a few minutes of running it dies, as I would expect. The cables are very clean and the negative is mounted directly to the frame... bare metal. Would the engine turn over if the solenoid was bad?

Any help would greatly be appreciated.
 

jhill52

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/You should have around14.5 v running. I had a broken regulator to ignition switch that caused the same problem.
 

jhill52

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That should say I had a broken wire going from the regulator to ignition switch. The regulator was not activating and telling the alternator to charge.
 

ared77

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"Would the engine turn over if the solenoid was bad?"

Short answer is no.

However it depends on the definition of "bad". If it started the engine but then would not dis-engage it would be considered "bad" and yet it did start the engine.:)
 

DirtDonk

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Which alternator setup do you have Frank? Is it from the '93, or is it from the Bronco's original accessory setup? Or something different still?
If you're not sure, a few pics will tell us the story.
What year is your Bronco?

The main ground cable from the battery should not go straight to the frame. It should go directly to the engine block. And the nearer it is to the starter motor, the better.

Is the wiring original? Or has it been re-wired?
A common issue with stock wiring if there have been other electrical problems (known or unknown) would be a blown fusible link in the main Black wire. This is a bit of under-sized wire that is there to protect the overall system from bad things and is used instead of a fuse or circuit-breaker.
This is the larger Black wire (could have a red stripe, could have a yellow stripe, or might not have any stripe) and is attached to the starter relay/solenoid on the same stud as the main battery cable. You might be able to inspect it for being soft or swollen up from being melted inside. Check it out and let us know what you find.

A bad starter relay can't in any way keep the battery from charging. Period, end of story.
If it's wired properly, the charge wire and the positive battery cable are in physical contact with each other. If the alternator is charging and the output is reaching the end of the wire at the starter relay, there is nothing other than a defect in one of those two wires that can block current from getting from the alternator to the battery.
The physical contact guarantees that nothing else on the vehicle is at fault.

Let us know what kind of charging and wiring setup you have and we can go from there.

Paul
 

blubuckaroo

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Which alternator setup do you have Frank? Is it from the '93, or is it from the Bronco's original accessory setup? Or something different still?
Paul

This is a good point. Just because it has a fuel injected 5.0, doesn't mean it has an internally regulated 3G alternator.
If it's an original type, I'd do a full field test by jumpering the battery to the field terminal on the alternator. You should get a good 14.2 to 14.7 volts.
This would verify the alternator is good, but the regulator is the problem.
 

SHX669

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When " running " what RPMs are you talking about ? I've found some of these new higher Amp alternators don't charge over 12.5 V at idle rpms and won't start 14 .5 V untill 1000 - 1200 rpms or so .
 

sprdv1

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good luck frank.. those are the worst

Damn electrical
 
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