Thanks Broncowie, I am tired and I need top shelf tonight;D. Have not measured to see how much if any squat has occurred. Really want the synthetic rope so it won't add hardly any weight, if not, second choice is SS 3/8" 304 7-19 wire rope. If I go SS it will add a bit of weight. I am working on the mirror brackets and will start on the raised rear bumper/ hitch. I'm gonna follow the modified Stock bumper theme out back as well. Next thread%)