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papy

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Folks,

Getting closer and closer to firing up my 67 5.0 explorer swap. Currently working on the HB and brake lines and hoping to have that all wrapped up by Monday of next week.

Need recommendations for the following fluids

brake fluid type- Dot???
1985 dodge diplomat MC (Cardone # 13-1860)
wilwood 260-8419 Brake Proportioning Valve
disk/drum set up


Power steering fluid type?
1996 explorer 5.0 power steering pump
1996 explorer power steering cooler
2003-04 super duty remote reservoir from (Cardone# 3R905)
2001 super duty hydro boost unit
early bronco power steering box


Also for those who are using the diplomat MC does it matter which port to use for the front or rear brakes? since its a single reservoir makes sense to use the port closest to the firewall for the rears and the forward one for the fronts? just making sure before i run the lines...

Primary Port Size 1/2 x 20 rear port

Secondary Port Size 9/16 x 20 front port

Reservoir Type Single

JP
 

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Apogee

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Brake Fluid: Any DOT3 or better fluid should be fine for your use. I run Valvoline Synthetic DOT3/4 HD Fluid (blue/white bottle) in most of my low-performance vehicles, as it's readily available just about anywhere, cost's about $8/32 oz bottle, and works great. My higher performance applications get Motul RBF 660 or something similar, but it costs over 6X more per ounce and always hurts a little every time I bleed the brakes.

Most Mopar master cylinders I've worked with were reversed with the front port feeding the rear brakes and vice versa.

I run Redline Power Steering fluid in my cars: https://www.redlineoil.com/power-steering-fluid

Tobin
 

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I'd run the brake lines the way they are run in the stock Dodge way - just guessing here but if there is a residual pressure valve for the drums like a ford then you don't want to swap front & back.
 
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papy

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thanks! I also like the redline products
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Type F ATF was used starting around there and ran through the 00s for power steering.

Brake Fluid: Any DOT3 or better fluid should be fine for your use. I run Valvoline Synthetic DOT3/4 HD Fluid (blue/white bottle) in most of my low-performance vehicles, as it's readily available just about anywhere, cost's about $8/32 oz bottle, and works great. My higher performance applications get Motul RBF 660 or something similar, but it costs over 6X more per ounce and always hurts a little every time I bleed the brakes.

Most Mopar master cylinders I've worked with were reversed with the front port feeding the rear brakes and vice versa.

I run Redline Power Steering fluid in my cars: https://www.redlineoil.com/power-steering-fluid

Tobin

I'd run the brake lines the way they are run in the stock Dodge way - just guessing here but if there is a residual pressure valve for the drums like a ford then you don't want to swap front & back.

Just trying to figure out which one is for the rears. Calling Cardone tomorrow to hopefully get an answer form them

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Just trying to figure out which one is for the rears. Calling Cardone tomorrow to hopefully get an answer form them

cheers

You can use a wire or straightened paper clip to determine whether there's a residual pressure valve in the outlet port of a master cylinder...if it inserts all the way to the piston bore, then there's no RPV. If not, then there is one.

In general, most of the remanufacturers and new MC's have moved away from RPV's, as the modern cup seal technology in wheel cylinders don't seem to require it anymore in order to function properly.

Tobin
 
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You can use a wire or straightened paper clip to determine whether there's a residual pressure valve in the outlet port of a master cylinder...if it inserts all the way to the piston bore, then there's no RPV. If not, then there is one.

In general, most of the remanufacturers and new MC's have moved away from RPV's, as the modern cup seal technology in wheel cylinders don't seem to require it anymore in order to function properly.

Tobin

Thanks for sharing! the primary is the rear port for the front brakes and the secondary is the front port for the rear brakes

got all my fluids sorted out as well!

Cheers
 
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