Need Ball Joint sleeve depth help

[1970excursion]

I thought I read about this in a couple other threads...

Replacing OE ball joints with MOOG units.

When I got to the step where you install the alignment sleeve, (shim what ever it is..) I ran it down until 40-50 pounds.. The problem is that the shim is 3/8 to 1/2 inch deep. There are a couple threads showing through the bottom on the knuckle..

Is this normal?

Thanks for any input

 

[broncodriver99]

Yes. The last couple of sets I have done with Moogs have been that way. I did a set with Spicers a while back and they fit like the original joints.

I am guessing Moog has adjusted the design of the joints to fit multiple applications.

 

[CopperRanger]

Last year about this time I replaced mine with a set of MOOG, I had the same, about 2 threads below the knuckle.

 

[Timmy390]

I recall this same type of issue being discussed a year or more back only it was with a house brand ball joints.

Did the original sleeves come out undamaged? If so, try using one of them and see what results you get.

I used NAPA premiums (which I'm told are nothing more then Raybestos brand in a NAPA box and costing MORE.....) and the fitment was perfect, 1 1/2 threads sticking out the top as I recall. Torqued to 40 foot pounds.

Tim

 

[NC-Fordguy]

I recall this same type of issue being discussed a year or more back only it was with a house brand ball joints.

Did the original sleeves come out undamaged? If so, try using one of them and see what results you get.

I used NAPA premiums (which I'm told are nothing more then Raybestos brand in a NAPA box and costing MORE.....) and the fitment was perfect, 1 1/2 threads sticking out the top as I recall. Torqued to 40 foot pounds.

Tim

The Napa premiums are rebranded moog

 

[1970excursion]

.) and the fitment was perfect, 1 1/2 threads sticking out the top as I recall. Torqued to 40 foot pounds.

Tim

Please clarify, threads out the top?. If this was the sleeve, how did you get the Castel at ed nut ran down?

Old one was the same way, threads showing out the bottom, must not have been the true originals.

Better mention that the knuckles are from a 79 big Bronco.

 

[Timmy390]

Sorry, not sticking up, below the top is what I should have said.

I just went out and looked at my rig, D side no threads showing out the bottom, P side one thread showing out the bottom. Mine were 78-79 Bronco knuckles too.

Tim

 

[1970excursion]

Sorry, not sticking up, below the top is what I should have said.

I just went out and looked at my rig, D side no threads showing out the bottom, P side one thread showing out the bottom. Mine were 78-79 Bronco knuckles too.

Tim

Thanks!!!

 

[DirtDonk]

Had the same issue with some of the newish fancy high-strength joints as well.
So while it's apparently very common, it's not how the originals worked as far as any I ever saw.
Pretty sure it's not a bad thing, unless it's sticking so far down it interferes with something, but it's certainly strange to see this kind of part with such a range of movement now.

Still getting used to all the changes we see in auto parts over the last few decades.

paul