New Bronco - press conf from Ford

[daddycreswell]

I agree with everything you said, I am super excited for it. Big body or small I'll own one as soon as I can get to the dealership and order one. After I get the new one, I think I'll add a big body to the herd an down all 3 models. I just wish it was sooner than later for the revel.

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[Bonefizz]

I agree. Everyone is so angry about the new Bronco! I can't wait to see it, might even purchase one. Any option to the Wrangler is a good thing.

 

[matts460]

LOL I work for Toyota as a tech and yes the 4runner is a great truck but you have another thing coming if anybody thinks it wont have issues. lol VVT-I drums, Oil flow control valves, 02 sensors, cats, rear diff bearings, 4x4 diff actuators sticking, Wheel bearings going out with bigger dumb looking 20" plus wheels/tires. CV boots, X-rayes shock system blowing out. front timing cover oil leaks, water pumps, idler pulleys, rear main leak, And wow these trucks can get rusty underneath fast so then you have frozen front control arm ecentrics and tie rods, brake calipers freeze up easy, rear brake backing plates rust out and oh yea frame rust like all the rest of Toyota trucks, oh and all of the above includes FJ since its just a short wheelbase 4runner. Oh forgot charcoal canister malfunctions and air injection system issues.

 

[matts460]

I am looking forward to see what the new Bronco is like. If it is good it will hold its value well like the Raptors do. I don't think Toyota has anything that holds its value as good as Ford Raptor seems too. I can never find any under 30k with less than 100k miles on them . Around here anyway.

 

[MrT]

The only thing you can really tell from the camo truck is that the windshield is very upright and that's a good start imho.

 

[elan]

Ford will never be able to make a vehicle as reliable as a 4runner and that’s not even considering how well the runners and FJcruisers hold their value
Ford can’t even build an car that the spark plugs won’t spit out or snap off
Or stretch the timing chains and blow the engine

I’ve owned two 4 runners and put 300k + on em with zero repairs.

The body on frame V-8 4runner with the electric locker is by far the best Mid size SUV ever made.

That said , I love my EB, but a rebadged Escape is just going to be so sad with the Bronco nameplate on it .

Look at what the Taliban screams around the deserts in. Toyota.
You don't see any Fords or Chevys, and Jeep wouldn't make it week in the sandbox

 

[Cooter_76]

Look at what the Taliban screams around the deserts in. Toyota.
You don't see any Fords or Chevys, and Jeep wouldn't make it week in the sandbox

Ahem...

 

[Glass Pony]

I went the 4 Runner route once and it wasn't all that. My wife had to have the 4 door when it came out in 1990. The starter went after a year (under warranty) then the tailgate window quit a couple years later (not under warranty). It cost me $950 to make the window go up and down again. That $950 was over 25 years ago money. Crappy stereo, bad gas mileage, and no power with the 3.0 V-6. We have had a lot better luck with the 5 Fords we owned since.

 

[Montoya]

Yea, yea, I know we are just jawing.
I just love shorter wheel based vehicles - I have been sick a long time --- Broncos, Jeeps, Samurai, Defender, Nivas - all short with 2 doors! There are plenty of long base vehicles choices and few short base choices. Let the Bronco be a Bronco. :-*

Haha, I love everything you mentioned! I even like that new Jeep knock off Mahindra Roxor for what it is, simple honest off road transportation.

I hope they make a short 2 door homage to the OG Bronco but I'm not holding my breath. My guess is the full size will be the best bet to get a 2 door variant.

 

[Glass Pony]

Ahem...

I remember that. The guy's phone was ringing off the hook when that got posted.;D The number wasn't blurred out then.

 

[daddycreswell]

Haha, I love everything you mentioned! I even like that new Jeep knock off Mahindra Roxor for what it is, simple honest off road transportation.



I hope they make a short 2 door homage to the OG Bronco but I'm not holding my breath. My guess is the full size will be the best bet to get a 2 door variant.

I always thought it was only going to be built on the ranger frame.

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[Montoya]

I always thought it was only going to be built on the ranger frame.

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I don't know how reliable my info is but my good friend is a big wig at Ford in the product planning side and he tells me there are three sizes and Bronco is going to be it's own Brand like the Mustang is now with the Mach-E.

 

[73azbronco]

Buying any new vehicle in the first two model years is a very big risk. But people do it all the time. I guess the Same people that borrow money to buy new and used vehicles, cause that’s really dumb too.

I pay cash for used vehicles at auctions. Sometimes it’s vehicles that got repossessed from people who foolishly financed a vehicle that will lose half its value every 24 months.

Plus the stealership always over prices them for the first customers who have to have the newest vehicle
Adding thousands to the already laughable MSRP
Stealerships around me constantly advertise $10k off MSRP on F-150s so the sticker price is just pulled out of a hat and has no relationship at all to the actual cost or value of the vehicle . The MSRP is a joke and is set at whatever they think some fools will actually pay for it.

Jeep Glads here in Scottsdale, should be priced at $48k, are over $55K.

 

[73azbronco]

LOL I work for Toyota as a tech and yes the 4runner is a great truck but you have another thing coming if anybody thinks it wont have issues. lol VVT-I drums, Oil flow control valves, 02 sensors, cats, rear diff bearings, 4x4 diff actuators sticking, Wheel bearings going out with bigger dumb looking 20" plus wheels/tires. CV boots, X-rayes shock system blowing out. front timing cover oil leaks, water pumps, idler pulleys, rear main leak, And wow these trucks can get rusty underneath fast so then you have frozen front control arm ecentrics and tie rods, brake calipers freeze up easy, rear brake backing plates rust out and oh yea frame rust like all the rest of Toyota trucks, oh and all of the above includes FJ since its just a short wheelbase 4runner. Oh forgot charcoal canister malfunctions and air injection system issues.

I loved my well cared for 180,000 mile Taco I needed to replace, not fix, replace the entire rear end cause it just blew up one day, radiator replaced, and rearmain oil seal, other than that still mad I sold it.

 

[daddycreswell]

I thought this was an interesting comparison.

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[73azbronco]

the Ford Flex 4x4.

 

[Yeller]

I personally like the Flex, hate the drive train, always thought it needed real HP and rear drive to compete with charger and magnum (that was still available when it came out) or drive train to compete with the 4 runner.

 

[daddycreswell]

the Ford Flex 4x4.

Nah...looks pretty close to the Jeep in the picture if you ask me.

 

[Bronco4x4]

I’m glad I decided on building a driver EB instead. I know no official reveal has come out yet but IMO >> The Challenger is the only vehicle that successfully matched it’s vintage body style. This Ford Flex/Expedition look does not give a Bronco vibe. If they are not going after the EB look at least use the current F150 or Super Duty front end to get the truck look back.

 

[Tiko433]

It looks that they placed some padding or something to hide the roof line on the wrap spy photo.... and the hinges are hidden. So if the doors are removable it must have a system completely different from a Heep