New Product - BC Broncos Heim Joint Stud

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Product: Adjustable Track Bar with heim joint
Vendor: BC Broncos
Price: $140.00

Our new extreme track bar can be used with any lift. Designed to be cut to fit your lift. It can be adjusted about 1" Comes cut to fit the tallest lift but threaded so that it can be cut down to fit the stock lift. The frame mount end has a hi-angle heim joint to relieve the bind caused by lots of articulation. The axle end uses a stock poly bushing. The track bar is make of .250 wall DOM. The Heim is 3/4" chromoly with teflon liner.

Please see this thread for more info and discussion.

 

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Product: Heim Joint Stud
Vendor: BC Broncos
Price: $18.00

The chromoly tapered shank will fit the F-150 tierod end hole in your knuckles and pitman arm and leave a good solid mounting point for the heim joint rod end. This is a much more secure way to mount the heim to your knuckles and pitman arm. One stud and two locking nuts are included. PATENT PENDING

 

[BRONKEN]

Do you a long & short stud. The longer being able to accept two rod ends on the pass. side? If so is it the same price?

Thanks, Ken

 

[chuck]

No, put a yoke near the right knuckle to mount the drag link. The idea is to avoid using a straight bolt to mount a heim in single sheer. Notice one end of the stud is tapered? That end fits the F-150 knuckle
PS the studs are heat treated and coated

 

[drscotch]

No, put a yoke near the right knuckle to mount the drag link. The idea is to avoid using a straight bolt to mount a heim in single sheer. Notice one end of the stud is tapered? That end fits the F-150 knuckle
PS the studs are heat treated and coated

Chuck,
Do you sell this yoke? Have a picture? How does it mount to the F-150 knuckle?

thanks

 

[chuck]

The yoke is a U shaped piece of steel that is welded to the tie rod so that you have a place to mount the drag link
P.S. they are being made now

 

[BRONKEN]

Chuck, are the yokes ready yet? I'm waiting to order some parts and want to place one order.
Thanks, Ken

 

[chuck]

Yes, all the parts are in stock

 

[NOTPRETTY]

Chuck,

I wish I had seen this earlier. I just bought some from poly performance but they are more money. This is what I bought:

heims I bought the JMX12T

Did I get a quality joint? They say they are 28,090 lbs strong...whatever that means. Next time, you'll get my business.

 

[drscotch]

Yes, all the parts are in stock

Any pics of the yoke installed?

thanks

 

[chuck]

This setup is on Jasons EB. The tierod and drag links we sell will be powdercoated black but may get to you with scratches and/or chips.

 

[77TexasBronc]

Chuck, I really like the idea of not having to drill out the knuckles. Great job.

I do have a question for you. In one of the pictures you posted of Jason’s setup it doesn’t look like the drag link is running parallel to the track bar. Am I missing something here or are my assumptions wrong that these two links should be on the same parallel to prevent bumbsteer?

 

[drscotch]

This setup is on Jasons EB. The tierod and drag links we sell will be powdercoated black but may get to you with scratches and/or chips.

Chuck,
Nice setup. Are you going to sell the tierods with the yoke attached?

Thanks

 

[chuck]

Chuck, I really like the idea of not having to drill out the knuckles. Great job.

I do have a question for you. In one of the pictures you posted of Jason’s setup it doesn’t look like the drag link is running parallel to the track bar. Am I missing something here or are my assumptions wrong that these two links should be on the same parallel to prevent bumbsteer?

The parallel thing is only true if both bars are the same length and how much of an angle they are at when at ride height makes a big diff.. It is a good rule of thumb anyway. The drag link is much longer than the track bar on Jason's EB so there is a little bump steer but not much. As soon as we get a few min. we plan to make the track bar raise bracket and lower spring mounts that we made and used on the racer last year.

 

[chuck]

Chuck,
Nice setup. Are you going to sell the tierods with the yoke attached?

Thanks

I am selling the yoke alone, the tierod alone and the yoke welded to the tierod. And I will weld the yokes on where you want them also.

 

[NOTPRETTY]

Chuck,

Just a suggestions. With all the Performance Unlimited kits out there with stacked heims on the passenger side, you might want to make a longer version or provide cut-down and tapping service. Or...sell the tap. Just a thought.

His iniside diameter tubing material is slightly different in size than yours I think.

Marlon

PS...comment on the heims I bought that I asked about above??? PM me??

 

[68ford]

chuck,
dont make a set up to put 2 heims on top of the pass side knuckle, you yoke methid is 10times stronger and better than the draglink going all the way to the knuckle like people run. 2 heims mounted single shere is crazy! plus having the draglink that long when it should be the same length as the trackbar promotes the most possible bupsteer. plus your yoke eliminates possible maxing of the heim(dont know if thats an issue though).

equal length equal angle= no bumpsteer.
pics above will have some bumpsteer, the draglink is long and almost level= hardley any side to side movement, trackbar is short and steep= lots of side to side movement.
ive drawn all the different lengths and angles in solid works and cycled it. your yoke setup,like mine, with equal lengths and angles,is the only way to have zero bumpsteer and again its the strongest.

you gona race mdr at the end of this month or the beard shootout race?

 

[chuck]

Chuck,

Just a suggestions. With all the Performance Unlimited kits out there with stacked heims on the passenger side, you might want to make a longer version or provide cut-down and tapping service. Or...sell the tap. Just a thought.

His iniside diameter tubing material is slightly different in size than yours I think.

Marlon

PS...comment on the heims I bought that I asked about above??? PM me??

I can cut down the drag link and thread it but anyone with a hacksaw can cut the rod down and the 3/4" tap can be bought at most hardware stores. My thought is that I am like most EB owners and would save the time and money and just do it myself, could be wrong. If his heims are 3/4" the ID should be the same.

 

[chuck]

chuck,
dont make a set up to put 2 heims on top of the pass side knuckle, you yoke methid is 10times stronger and better than the draglink going all the way to the knuckle like people run. 2 heims mounted single shere is crazy! plus having the draglink that long when it should be the same length as the trackbar promotes the most possible bupsteer. plus your yoke eliminates possible maxing of the heim(dont know if thats an issue though).

equal length equal angle= no bumpsteer.
pics above will have some bumpsteer, the draglink is long and almost level= hardley any side to side movement, trackbar is short and steep= lots of side to side movement.
ive drawn all the different lengths and angles in solid works and cycled it. your yoke setup,like mine, with equal lengths and angles,is the only way to have zero bumpsteer and again its the strongest.

you gona race mdr at the end of this month or the beard shootout race?

I will not do a double heim. The reason I did not offer a heim steering long ago is the heim mounts. With the tapered stud and the saddle I was able to correct both weaknesses.
You are right about the bumpsteer on Jasons bronco, it's not bad as soon as we get a min we will install the track bar raise bracket. Equal length bars at the same angle is easy. The problem with that on a lifted EB is the drag link ends up too far from the support of the right knuckle and at too much angle so when you put pressure on the drag link it will make the tie rod flex and depending on how hard you push it (like when crawling rocks) it can and has become bent. More later

 

[NOTPRETTY]

chuck,
dont make a set up to put 2 heims on top of the pass side knuckle, you yoke methid is 10times stronger and better than the draglink going all the way to the knuckle like people run. 2 heims mounted single shere is crazy! plus having the draglink that long when it should be the same length as the trackbar promotes the most possible bupsteer. plus your yoke eliminates possible maxing of the heim(dont know if thats an issue though).

equal length equal angle= no bumpsteer.
pics above will have some bumpsteer, the draglink is long and almost level= hardley any side to side movement, trackbar is short and steep= lots of side to side movement.
ive drawn all the different lengths and angles in solid works and cycled it. your yoke setup,like mine, with equal lengths and angles,is the only way to have zero bumpsteer and again its the strongest.

you gona race mdr at the end of this month or the beard shootout race?

You're just getting on my nerves now. I think you're getting emotional. Do you need sometime at the mindbender to get back down to earth? I think you're mad that I bashed your 22" travel half circle leafs. :'( :'( There is more than one way to do things. Get over it. %) %)

As for the stacked heims...No they are not the best way to do things. But it is far from 'CRAZY' for a vehicle that is crawling and doesn't jump in the air. I've been running in the rocks for several years on some of the most insane trails and have never had an issue with the heims mounted that way. My rig has all the toys and very low gears too.

As for desert racing, which I suspect that is what you do, no I would not run stacked heims. The pressure that way would be much more concerning...especially with your half circles. There are several customers out there with several needs so think before you spew next time. I've never had bump steer because I too understand stearing geometry and how far you can push it and avoid bump stear.

As for selling something that would accomodate the PU set up...Chuck is right...you can buy the tap at most hardware stores and a hack saw is in all our tool bags. All you need is the yoke which I would bend at my local Blue Collar store. So, Chuck is right. Do it yourself. I was just thinking it might be a $$$ opportunity for him since there is so many of these kits out there.

Now don't go away mad...just go away.