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Non Bronco question

chuck1022

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If you were looking to buy a truck and a 20ft car trailer. Which truck would you buy? Here is the scenario I see using it. I drive from Az to Tennesse to pick up a frame from Kincer chassis. I find a car that I like in Oregon....drive up there and bring it home. Not in a hurry...seeing the country.

Trailer weight is probably 2500lbs

A Bronco/Mustang/C10 weighs 4000lbs

So 6500-7500lbs towed.

Tundra 5.7L (reliable)
Ram Cummins (overkill )

What would you buy?

F150 5.0L
 
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chuck1022

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I know that it would be easier and cheaper to have the items delivered...but its a fun treasure hunt...fun way to see the country
 

Broncobowsher

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"Not in a hurry...seeing the country" Find a good clean old 7.3 powerstroke. They are hard to find but they are out there.
 

okie4570

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The Tundra will work fine for what you described. For an occasional lightweight load, gas is the way to go imo.
 

TN1776

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I towed my Bronco from the SF Bay Area up to Florence, Oregon and back in 2018, behind my 2016 F150 with a 3.5 Ecoboost. I was very happy with its towing performance. The trailer that I used did have a weight distribution hitch, which I think helped with the handling quite a bit. It got very poor gas mileage while towing up and over the Siskyou range - seeing upper single digits for that stretch. But overall for a daily driver pickup truck with occasional towing duties, I could not be happier.
 

Glass Pony

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If you were looking to buy a truck and a 20ft car trailer. Which truck would you buy? Here is the scenario I see using it. I drive from Az to Tennesse to pick up a frame from Kincer chassis. I find a car that I like in Oregon....drive up there and bring it home. Not in a hurry...seeing the country.

Trailer weight is probably 2500lbs

A Bronco/Mustang/C10 weighs 4000lbs

So 6500-7500lbs towed.

Tundra 5.7L (reliable)
Ram Cummins (overkill )

What would you buy?

F150 5.0L
Any of those trucks would work but if you get the 5.0 F-150, get it with the 3.73 gears. That motor makes most of it's power at a higher rpm range.
 

AC932

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Done all my towing with a F150 w/ 3.5L ecoboost. Don't even notice the damned trailer until ya look in the rearview mirror and see a car hovering behind you. MPG when towing ain't great, but 19+ day to day average is nice.
 

House

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Reliable - Ecoboost 3.5L F150
Overkill - Powerstroke 6.7L F250
 

Apogee

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While I think you could easily get away with a 1/2-ton truck, I have personally found that towing with a 3/4 or 1-ton is so much more fun, enjoyable and relaxing. I probably don't have nearly the tow experience others here do, but I spent most of my youth towing ATV trailers and such around behind my 1/2-ton '77 F150 without any issues, but never more than 4k pounds including the trailer weight with a 5200# truck. On the few occasions that I did tow more than that, I was wishing I had better brakes and a weight distributing hitch, as things were a bit less confidence inspiring with respect to sway and stopping distances.

I now tow with a 2014 F250 diesel (6.7), and it's amazing the difference. I'd used my mom's '99 F250 diesel (7.3 turbo) a few times and it did pretty well overall, but I certainly knew I had a trailer behind me. That said, the newer trucks do so much better with the modern 6-spd (and now 10-spd) transmissions, making much better use of the torque available IMO. My 14k pound tilt trailer weighs about 4400# empty, and I've had it at max capacity with about 1200# tongue weight and no issues for hundreds of miles back and forth over the Cascades, just hook up and go.

A friend of mine had a Superduty Powerstroke 6.0 (~2005), thought he could save money with a '96 F350 with a simple 7.3 and went that route, and immediately regretted it. He mostly pulls his '78 Bronco wheeler (~6000#) on a 24 ft gooseneck and what the SD handled readily pushed his '96 around like it was a compact truck.

I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to the question, but I'd get a 10k rated trailer for the type of use you're describing and then as modern of a 3/4-ton truck I could afford so that I could pull almost anything automotive that I wanted.
 
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chuck1022

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While I think you could easily get away with a 1/2-ton truck, I have personally found that towing with a 3/4 or 1-ton is so much more fun, enjoyable and relaxing. I probably don't have nearly the tow experience others here do, but I spent most of my youth towing ATV trailers and such around behind my 1/2-ton '77 F150 without any issues, but never more than 4k pounds including the trailer weight with a 5200# truck. On the few occasions that I did tow more than that, I was wishing I had better brakes and a weight distributing hitch, as things were a bit less confidence inspiring with respect to sway and stopping distances.

I now tow with a 2014 F250 diesel (6.7), and it's amazing the difference. I'd used my mom's '99 F250 diesel (7.3 turbo) a few times and it did pretty well overall, but I certainly knew I had a trailer behind me. That said, the newer trucks do so much better with the modern 6-spd (and now 10-spd) transmissions, making much better use of the torque available IMO. My 14k pound tilt trailer weighs about 4400# empty, and I've had it at max capacity with about 1200# tongue weight and no issues for hundreds of miles back and forth over the Cascades, just hook up and go.

A friend of mine had a Superduty Powerstroke 6.0 (~2005), thought he could save money with a '96 F350 with a simple 7.3 and went that route, and immediately regretted it. He mostly pulls his '78 Bronco wheeler (~6000#) on a 24 ft gooseneck and what the SD handled readily pushed his '96 around like it was a compact truck.

I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to the question, but I'd get a 10k rated trailer for the type of use you're describing and then as modern of a 3/4-ton truck I could afford so that I could pull almost anything automotive that I wanted.

I need to learn about "tongue weight" and all that ......

I started pricing trucks.....whoossh...

Those f150's get expensive real fast!
 

ep67bro

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F150 with 3.5 Eco or 5.0. I have towed broncos with both those motors and they do just fine. Yeah mileage isn't really good when towing and it will be down in a really low gear over the passes but as a all around truck you cant beat them. Comfortable, reliable, and there are a ton of good used ones out there.

Now if money is not an issue step up to a F250 with the 6.7 and towing will not be an issue at all. I have a 2019 F250 4x4 FX4 lariat and it is a beast!! Tows what ever I want as fast as I want. Is very comfortable for long trips has tons of room inside and in the bed. Down sides... it sucks to park, mpg sucks around town and when it goes into regen mode the mpg sucks. oh and the sticker on the truck was over $70K.

A lot of choices out there these days all the trucks are pretty good across all the manufactures, I have and will always be a Ford guy, I would stay away from the dodges great diesel motors too many other little issues. Good luck and have fun!
 

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I think I am in a very similar situation with you. I have a 22 foot haulmark enclosed trailer that I occasionally tow with. I have towed my 65 mustang to several shows with it over the years. I picked my bronco up with it and I drove from Iowa to Delaware to get my bronco body with it. I had a diesel f250 and it pulled the trailer effortlessly. But for. Daily driver it was Less than optimal. dealing with the diesel in an Iowa winter was a pain. Always having to add the fuel additives and plugging the thing in when parking it outside when it was cold. The cost of diesel fuel etc. it was a nice truck and all but when I traded it in, I wanted a gas truck. I really wanted a 5.0 f150 but the truck I found that had everything else I wanted had the 3.5 eco boost. It honestly has surpassed my expectations. It was this truck I pulled the bronco in, and this truck I took to Delaware it got decent gas mileage. And pulled amazingly well. It is a joy to drive on a daily basis. Overall I absolutely love this truck. 2018 lariat eco boost with
All th bells and whistles
 

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Broncobowsher

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Half ton truck is fine for a day of pulling. When you are talking day after day of pulling, the 3/4 ton trucks just eat the miles on the highway. If you said you wanted a truck to pull the Bronco to the local trail, half ton all day long. Watching the scenery go by cross country, big truck.
 

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Test drive all different brands, I have owned ford,dodge and chevy and each one had its strong points. Owning a diesel is a whole different animal than gas, the power band and tork on older diesels are in the lower rpm range. I've always liked the ride the chevys hand, but liked the power the dodge Cummins have. To me I like over kill, that way if I want to pull or carry more weight, I already have the rig to do that.
 

73azbronco

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Everyday hauling camping? F250/350 hands down.

Once a month or less? F150.

BTW, don't ever buy new, look at 2 year old prices on car guru, these are most likely off lease turn in's. Save about $20,000
 

Broncobowsher

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You won't feel what you need to feel on a test drive for driving cross country pulling a trailer. The half ton will feel better on a quick test drive. The 3/4 ton will feel better after a long day on the road.
 
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chuck1022

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It would be ,,,....every couple months....I drive to Ohio...or Idaho.
 

bronkenn

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Just got back from picking up a 69 Firebird from Boston a couple months ago. It was with my neighbor and we pulled my 24 foot enclosed trailer with his brand new F150 with the 3.5 Eco. I usually use my F350 with the 6.7. The 150 had plenty of power but handled terribly over 60 mph. Crosswinds would blow us around when a vehicle would pass us. Was not a very relaxing trip. The suspension was too loose for that type of towing. An open trailer may have been better as there would be less wind resistance. Every time a truck would go by the back end of the truck would get pushed around. I would recommend getting a truck that is over rated a bit for the amount of GCVW that you are planning to pull. The newer 3/4 ton trucks ride very well when not towing yet are plenty capable when you need them.
 

Hazegray

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It is always better to have too much truck than not enough. I went the Chevy 2500HD gas version 5 years ago, but have since upgraded to the newer diesel Chevy 2500HD. Big difference in fuel mileage and towing! That poor ol' gas 6.0 drank fuel like a cure for the corona virus!
 
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