On-Board Air - engine driven or electric??

[76MaBronco]

Another poll. The Turd is coming along to be a mice machine, and I'm at a crossroads as to on-board air. I have a certified tank (5 gallon maybe) with ports, blow-by valves and such, and I have a York style compressor from a late 70's big Bronco. The clutch is seized, bit it spins and seems to have compression. A new clutch is $105, and the tools to remove and reinstall are another $45. The new pump, with a clutch is $185. I'd still have to make a mounting plate (no biggie) but there is a large counterweight at the clutch that screams that it eats horsepower for breakfast. Large rotational mass takes some power to keep going.

I'll mainly be using it to fill up tires after a trail run, but I suppose the use of an impact or blow-gun would be nice to have once in a while...

So I have 3 options really...opinions please!!

 

[br0nc0xrapt0r]

WooHooo I carry 100 percent of the vote right now! I toyed with this too and it just seems easier to use the old engine driven pumps. those electric units are so expensive and don't pack enough punch.

 

[76MaBronco]

Punch is somewhat eliminated with the use of the tank, no?

Dual electrics can fill it up fairly quick (Installed a system in a friends bagged S-10, duals fill a 4 gallon tank in about a minute up to around 150 psi). But yeah, cost is a factor...

 

[Hank_]

I have had electric and I dont want one for the motor. My next one will be this from Ultimate Air.

http://www.ultimate-air.com/


They last a long time, can run air tools and blow up a ton of tires. When I want I can store it in the garage.

Henry

 

[br0nc0xrapt0r]

I have had electric and I dont want one for the motor. My next one will be this from Ultimate Air.

http://www.ultimate-air.com/


They last a long time, can run air tools and blow up a ton of tires. When I want I can store it in the garage.

Henry

You got a good point there I am just looking at it from a cost perspective. I got a 351W from a van for 200 that included all the accessories so my air issue is solved.

 

[Fitz24]

I went with the york option. I use it with a 5 gal tank and so I don't have to run it all the time. With a pressure switch to turn it on and off, you only loose a little power when it engages the clutch. You should try to have the suction port on the compressor on top if you make a mount that lays the York on it's side. I mounted mine over the stock alternator location. Was pretty easy and works great. Use it for my ARB's and tire inflation. Can use power tools also.

 

[76MaBronco]

I went with the york option. I use it with a 5 gal tank and so I don't have to run it all the time. With a pressure switch to turn it on and off, you only loose a little power when it engages the clutch. You should try to have the suction port on the compressor on top if you make a mount that lays the York on it's side. I mounted mine over the stock alternator location. Was pretty easy and works great. Use it for my ARB's and tire inflation. Can use power tools also.

That's the location I spied as well...can you send me some pics of your install?

I was going to weld a spacer and a mounting plate to the steel spacer on the alternator bolt and use that as the pivot...I'd like to see how you did yours though...

 

[Mark]

That's the location I spied as well...can you send me some pics of your install?

I was going to weld a spacer and a mounting plate to the steel spacer on the alternator bolt and use that as the pivot...I'd like to see how you did yours though...

There's a tech article that uses this area...
linky link... http://classicbroncos.com/tech/on-board-air-york-210-compressor

 

[76MaBronco]

Good Article, Thanks!!!

 

[yjzonie]

Yorks are great, I just finished installing mine. I installed it on the driver side above the power streering pump. Factory Ford brackets with an IH clutch to keep the size of the pully down. Very clean install.

 

[76MaBronco]

you gimped the edge - smart move. I have the bracket that it came with, but it was off a 351 or 400 (engine was huge) so I don't think they'll bolt up...If I go that way, I'll fab something up

 

[fungus]

York makes a damn nice OBA setup. I wouldn't worry about the HP robbing. Chances are you're not going to have it engaged while moving. If it robs a little HP while you're sitting there filling tires, running tools etc who cares... I run a Powertank right now and LOVE the portability it gives me. I've run on a single fill for the past 3 years! Its filled a TON of tires and run power tools. You can take it out and go from rig to rig filling and working w/o hauling a ton of hose or worrying about getting next to someone on a single track trail. Super convenient!

 

[yjzonie]

you gimped the edge - smart move. I have the bracket that it came with, but it was off a 351 or 400 (engine was huge) so I don't think they'll bolt up...If I go that way, I'll fab something up

It is the same bracket on the "m" engines. I had to elongate the mounting holes a little, but that was for the idler pulley bracket to line up with the IH clutch pulley. I also have a 2" body lift and everything just clears with the rads upper hose.

 

[Fitz24]

That's the location I spied as well...can you send me some pics of your install?

I was going to weld a spacer and a mounting plate to the steel spacer on the alternator bolt and use that as the pivot...I'd like to see how you did yours though...

I don't have any pics but can get some tomorrow after work if you still need. I used the mounting point on the bracket for smog pump. My bracket looks a lot like the one in the tech article but just a retangular base the pump sits on top of. It has a sleeve welded to the underside of the end for the pivot bolt and a adjuster that looks much like the alternator one that goes back to the mounting bracket for the smog pump (if I remember right).