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Painless dissapointment

malcolmzilla

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Any opinion on whether any of the harnesses would be easier done with the dash on a work stand out of the truck. I am doing a frame off and have the orig dash with all wiring still installed on the shelf and I am ignoring it.

Dash out, lay and route the harness on the firewall, secure, locate your dash drops, secure, then dash in, connect switches as you need them. You can start and run it without the dash, just need the ignition switch terminated.
 

77BroncoWag

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Got mine coming friday
I read the instructions online and it makes it sound like you can mount it where yours is or in the glove box?:? (looks too big for that) How much leway is there in locating it elsewhere? Where would you mount yours if you had a choice?




I agree. At the time I installed the harness I thought it would be no big deal to put it there. Now I am kicking myself for not putting it somewhere more accessible. %)





I agree it looks real clean right there but will be a major PITA when you need to change a fuse.
 

joser

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I did my Painless rewire with the dash out, laying on the front floor. After I had the harness layed out and the big parts run to the four corners of the Bronco, I lifted the dash onto two boxes on the front floor so I could connect all dash wires with it not in place. I set the dash in place as one unit, all wired together.

I also mounted the fusebox in the ashtray location.
 
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Ok so the order in best wiring harnesses is
1) Ron Francis
2) Centech
3) Painless

Im going to eventually be rewiring my bronco and I want a good wiring harness that will run everything i need it to run.
 

77BroncoWag

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Ok so the order in best wiring harnesses is
1) Ron Francis
2) Centech
3) Painless

Im going to eventually be rewiring my bronco and I want a good wiring harness that will run everything i need it to run.


I don't know. But most the vendors will say the Painless is better quality and it has a lifetime warranty(if it fails in the first year painless even pays for the labor). Centech 1 year warranty. Francis is different because you have to order the harness the way you want it set up they build to your specs .
 

77BroncoWag

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good for them
wish all the vendors would do that once in a while. I know of a company that hired a guy to do just that. Find the websites that talk about your company and reply if needed :p .
 

SeaBiscuit68

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Well since Painless is lurking, may I say what I think about all this? Considering our rigs had two fuse box locations depending on the year, early ones at the firewall down by the pedals, and later ones in the glove box, since you have the former version covered why not appeal to the latter version owners? While I'm at it, the through the firewall routing is different in the early vs later ones as well. In other words you can't just take one EB as an example and produce a '66 - '77 harness.

my 2c
 

357Bronco

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I've been following these electrical threads for a while, I am using a painless 12 circuit street rod harness ( my Bronco is far from stock and thought going universal would save time and money ), as far as quality I'm very happy. I also have all their relays( fuel pump, water pump, and fan ) and weather proof control panel. Soooo, if a Painless rep is reading this, and your looking for a sand drag rig to sponsor.....;D ;D ;D
 

thesnake

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On my 70, I plan to use the Centech Harness I had in my 73. On my sister's I've been leaning towards Centech again, but I've been checking out all the threads on the painless, fourwheelinjunky and ezwiring harnesses. The last two are pretty much ebay fixtures. I'm not certain which way I'll go and her input has been, she wants "new" wiring. The price of the latter two are inviting, I like painless because of the warranty, but I'm familiar with the centech already.

Too bad Painless couldn't offer a killer "mass buy" that would decide what harness I'd use on my sister's bronco and the third bronco I'm putting together.

John
 

bronco italiano

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I really enjoyed installing the painless 20 circuit on ROKDWLR's bronco. It was a semi custom setup so the extra circuits worked perfect. I did have a problem as 1 wire was color coded different per the instructions and one of the tech guys (at painless) was a jerk and knew nothing but another tech (a guy that Mark at WH told me to speak to) new his stuff as did (and always does know his stuff) RRRAAAYYY. I really like the harness, it is expensive but comes very well done/complete. BI
 

bronco italiano

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there is aguy on ebay with screen name oldnewparts. Look under universal wiring harness. he sells a 20 circuit for 135 shipped. If your willing to terminate all your ends this is a good setup. Similar to the RF but you need to supply your switches. Good Luck, BI
 

meckanik

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I am glad to see this come up. I just bought a new centech harness and got to thinking if it includes the upgraded headlight wiring? In other words, I have Ryans upgraded headlight harness and was wondering if this was something I can delete.

Ben

The Centech doesn't come with headlight relays; I'm running the Centech and Ryans harness, they integrate just fine (I believe I cut into the Centech to mate them, but my memory is a little fuzzy).

I did the Centech to make the install easy (which it was), I didn't want to bother with looming or termination but I have to do some custom wiring to accommodate all of the aftermarket mods I've done. In the future once I have everything worked out I may change over to a Ron Francis, but I actually like wiring. ;D

-Jeff
 
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