Paint behind timing cover

[Shimmy]

looks like you're doing a good job of removing that paint. if anything you can change the oil after you've ran it for a bit

 

[Grey owl]

Lol, you don't think an oil filter would catch flakes of paint, lol of course it would, it catches things as small as iron filings.

should have said oil access. oil gets to the rollers, paint settles, etc

Like I said, show us where everyone is good with painting the inside of the block, and probably using spraycan paint. I know of some powdercoated oil pans, thats about it. even powdercoatd valve covers are only exterio

 

[Grey owl]

and drag racers opened the motor every race?

Watch any video from Eric on I Do Cars. He does weekly engine tear downs. One thing I have seen is that an oil filter will not keep crap in the oil from circulating around. Lots of stuff gets by.

The only stuff that gets through a good oil filter is smaller than 10 microns. You clearly have no clue how an oil filter even works, anything that doesn't get through the filter is trapped its not possible for it to recirculate. How can it recirculate against pressure??? DUH. You pride yourself as the ultimate know it all, yet your comments suggest you dont have a clue how a simple oil flter works.

 

[Steve83]

...should be concerned about this bearing in the front, as I can see the grit sitting on it.

Oil only leaks OUT from between the bearings & crank/cam, so no. That paint will never go in.

...an oil filter will not keep crap in the oil from circulating around. Lots of stuff gets by.

That applies to crappy filters. How many of those videos show engines that have exclusively used quality (Ford/MC/Wix...) oil filters?

 

[joshua]

Oil only leaks OUT from between the bearings & crank/cam, so no. That paint will never go in.

That applies to crappy filters. How many of those videos show engines that have exclusively used quality (Ford/MC/Wix...) oil filters?

I always use the wix

Also, doesn’t the oil filter get bypassed during hard acceleration? I thought I read that somewhere.

And on the paint on the bearing, that is what I figured. I just needed to confirm it, as this would be the time to break it down.

Thank you.

 

[ntsqd]

The only stuff that gets through a good oil filter is smaller than 10 microns. You clearly have no clue how an oil filter even works, anything that doesn't get through the filter is trapped its not possible for it to recirculate. How can it recirculate against pressure??? DUH. You pride yourself as the ultimate know it all, yet your comments suggest you dont have a clue how a simple oil flter works.

And you pride yourself on knowing how an engine works without understanding that before the filter can catch anything it has to go thru the pick-up screen and the oil pump - with risk to plugging one and damaging the other.

Quit insisting on being right and think it through.

 

[ntsqd]

OP, the oil filter should only by-pass when it is overdue to be replaced. The idea is to keep the oil flowing even when the filter is plugged. Dirty oil is better than no oil.

 

[73azbronco]

Lol, you don't think an oil filter would catch flakes of paint, lol of course it would, it catches things as small as iron filings.

as the oil degrades the paint, it's not flakes, it's microns or smaller particles, that then reattach to other parts.

 

[joshua]

I’m calling this done, it’s not perfect. But it’s 97 percent of it

 

[joshua]

Hits keep on coming! Should I just use my finger sander and clearance this? Definitely hitting! Again I did not put this together.

 

[73azbronco]

perfect is the enemy of good.

 

[DirtDonk]

It might just be the pic (angle of the camera) but is the chain "curved" as in, the crank gear is more rearward of the cam gear?
If so, then perhaps the clearance issue is not the fault of the block, and that clearancing it will not fix an underlying misalignment.

These engines did utilize at least two different types of gear setups. Same size, same chain length, but some kind of difference in the gears that made one set incompatible with certain (year?) blocks.
How's about a pic of the full gear/chain setup, from the side?

Paul

 

[Steve83]

Should I just use my finger sander and clearance this?

No.

Definitely hitting!

Is there a slinger or washer missing between the crank & gear? Is the gear on backward? Is the camshaft retainer on backward?

Rotate the crank by hand so the gear slides out until the chain is straight, then mark or measure it, push the gear back, and measure how much shim washer it would need behind it to hold it out at the correct position.

 

[joshua]

No.

Is there a slinger or washer missing between the crank & gear? Is the gear on backward? Is the camshaft retainer on backward?

Rotate the crank by hand so the gear slides out until the chain is straight, then mark or measure it, push the gear back, and measure how much shim washer it would need behind it to hold it out at the correct position.

Gear is not backwards. There is no slinger behind. Idk if there was or wasn’t. Internet says it’s a common problem. And to use a carbide bit to clearance it. Internet says that theres nothing that goes behind it. But it’s just ai. I taped everything off and took some material off. But it’s still hitting. I’m fine just going with a single. As idk how deep I can go.

 

[Grey owl]

as the oil degrades the paint, it's not flakes, it's microns or smaller particles, that then reattach to other parts.

And what do you think happens to the particles less than 10 microns that get through the oil filter when the oil is changed. What are those other parts they attach to ?? What damage do they cause and where is your proof that particles less than 10 microns magically attach to other parts, or are you just making that up???

 

[Grey owl]

Gear is not backwards. There is no slinger behind. Idk if there was or wasn’t. Internet says it’s a common problem. And to use a carbide bit to clearance it. Internet says that theres nothing that goes behind it. But it’s just ai. I taped everything off and took some material off. But it’s still hitting. I’m fine just going with a single. As idk how deep I can go.

There is nothing that goes behind the crank gear, also it would be clearly obvious if the gear was installed backwards.

 

[Grey owl]

And you pride yourself on knowing how an engine works without understanding that before the filter can catch anything it has to go thru the pick-up screen and the oil pump - with risk to plugging one and damaging the other.

Quit insisting on being right and think it through.

Lol, thats just funny.

 

[ntsqd]

Lol, thats just funny.

No, it's sad that you think so.

 

[Grey owl]

No, it's sad that you think so.

No actually the comment was funny, ridiculous but certainly funny. For a moment i forgot you are the ultimate know it all on this forum, thats actually funny too.. you need to take your own advice.

 

[EPB72]

Hits keep on coming! Should I just use my finger sander and clearance this? Definitely hitting! Again I did not put this together.

Is this timing set the same as you had in your picture on post #1 of this thread ? That pic looks as if there was no clearance issues ,,, as Paul asked ther does seem to be a little arch / alignment issue either Carl a cam gear ? Or is the pic deceiving?