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Question regarding stalling

DuncanR

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My EB stalls out randomly, and sometimes, in the worst places. After it sits for 30 minutes, it's driving again. Carb was just rebuilt, new fuel filter, and fuel pump. Gas line appears to be clear. You might be thinking vapor lock, but it's been cold when this has started happening, and only driving in town for about 10 minutes. There is fuel and spark. I even got a "real" mechanic involved and he is dumbfounded. Partly, because it behaves in front of him:/.

Could this be a water pump issue? What other thoughts do you have.

Thanks in advance.
 

69red

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what kind of ignition system do you have? Points? DuraSpark? something else?
it could be as simple as a worn coil wire shorting to the block.
 

alphamale

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Do you have an inline filter between the tank and the pump? My 68' had thebsame problem. The filter would clog and then after settling about 30-45 minutes would cranknrightbuo and drive again. Kept replacing filters once I realized what was going on and finaly took the tank off and cleaned it out. Since cleaning the tank I have had no issues with it stalling or cutting off.
 
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DuncanR

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I have points. Just last year, I did a tune up, so I wouldn't suspect a worn wire.
 
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I'm working my way through the Bronco on restoring everything. I haven't touched the gas tanks. Nor, do I think they have ever been touched. And, no, I don't have an inline filter between the tank and the pump. Would you recommend that, or removing the tanks and cleaning them?
 

alphamale

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Both! Clean the tanks really well and puy an inline filter in to catch things before they reach the pump or carb. Another issue I had was the screen on the end of the swnding unit was getting clogged with stuff in the tank. Its basically a strainer to keep the bigger stuff out of the line. Rust can clog it up pretty quickly. If you decide to clean your tank let me know. I have had to do it a few rimes and finaly found a way thatbworked pretty well. Im thinking of doing a por-15 coating on one of mine now.
 

alphamale

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I use a filter along the frame between tank and pump and another between pump and carb just in case. I use the glass see thru filter with changeable inserts on the frame and jst a standard disposable se thru filter between pump and carb. The first one collects most of the stuff and I can clean it out whenever needed and the second is a finer filter that gets the really fine stuff. At one rime I was cleaning my glass filter out almost every day until I cleaned my tank. It was the first tank I had evwr done and after I was cleaning out the first filter about every week for a month. Did some reading and some experimenting and finaly got the tank really clean and no problems since.
 

alphamale

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Some carbs have a small filter atached to the fuel inlet on the carb as well that you may want to check. I would change all the dilters and aee if that helps then move to cleaning out the tanks. Has worked for me every time.
 

bronconut73

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Stock metal tanks are only like $160 bucks now at TBP and WH.
So before you devote too much money or time on your original tanks check them out.
I cleaned my tank out about twenty years ago. Eventually I replaced it with a TBP poly tank.
No more rust ever.
14 gallon.
 

dave67fd

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Outside ambient doesn't always have an effect on vapor lock. Confirm your fuel line routing along the exhaust/engine. Confirm your carb has the proper fuel bowl level. Any stalling on quick stops? Did you have any of these similar issues before the carb was rebuilt?
 

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Both! Clean the tanks really well and puy an inline filter in to catch things before they reach the pump or carb. Another issue I had was the screen on the end of the swnding unit was getting clogged with stuff in the tank. Its basically a strainer to keep the bigger stuff out of the line. Rust can clog it up pretty quickly. If you decide to clean your tank let me know. I have had to do it a few rimes and finaly found a way thatbworked pretty well. Im thinking of doing a por-15 coating on one of mine now.

Adding an additional filter is just asking for vapor lock trouble. It also makes troubleshooting more difficult. The best filter option for a carb is to just replace the tiny threaded carb filter with a hose barb fitting and install an inline filter ahead of it. One large filter is enough.;)
 

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Sometimes engine heat will cause ignition problems. Check your coil and also ignition module if you have one. Won't work when hot; after 30 minutes cool down works again.
 

alphamale

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Adding an additional filter is just asking for vapor lock trouble. It also makes troubleshooting more difficult. The best filter option for a carb is to just replace the tiny threaded carb filter with a hose barb fitting and install an inline filter ahead of it. One large filter is enough.;)[/QUOTE

Rust and debri can really cause a lot of problems if it sticks one of the valves open. I always run a filter before my electric pump. A $5 filter is a lot cheaper than a $70 pump. I also run one on my mechanical pump as well. Initialy to catch debri from a tank that I had cleaned but didnt get all the debri loose. My lines are run on the outside of my frame for a few reasons. The biggest one bring it keeps them away from exhaust heat. It also makes it easy to see if the filter is full of sediment as well as easy to get to. As far as trouble shooting goes I always keep the replaceable screens for the glass see thru filter in the glovebox. Takes a second to see if there is a bunch if sediment and only a few minutes to change it. I have to think about protecting my pump as well as my carb so its more viable for me to have a filter before and after the pump on my electric set up. Probably not so much on a mechanical but they can get clogged with rust and debri too. I have never run into vapor lock issues so I cant attest to that. I always remove the little filter at the carb inlet and just use a large filter after the pump.

But like I was saying if you are worried about debri from an old tank a filter before the pump is a good safety measure and although it can seem like a hassle having to change it when its stopped up it could prevent other issues down the road.

I really dont see two large volume filters really being an issue. Maybe runing two filters this way is just something I have been fortunate enough to not have a problem with. The first filter just has a replaceable screen so it isnt very restrictive at all and the second before the carb is a mor classic filter style.
 
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jw0747

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First thing I'd do is change your points and condensor. Cheapest and easiest fix because it sounds like an ignition problem to me and once done be certain your gap and dwell are set correctly.
 
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alphamale

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QUOTE=blubuckaroo;2530994]Why would you try to use a rusted gas tank? That would be just asking for plugged filters.
No, I'm not rich. I just can't see advising someone to fix a rusted tank with additional filters.
That not only makes further troubleshooting more difficult but adds more restriction and surface area to the fuel line. That will increase the likelihood of vapor lock.
Why not just fix it right and enjoy your car?[/QUOTE]

Both! Clean the tanks really well and puy an inline filter in to catch things before they reach the pump or carb. Another issue I had was the screen on the end of the swnding unit was getting clogged with stuff in the tank. Its basically a strainer to keep the bigger stuff out of the line. Rust can clog it up pretty quickly. If you decide to clean your tank let me know. I have had to do it a few rimes and finaly found a way thatbworked pretty well. Im thinking of doing a por-15 coating on one of mine now.

"Clean the tanks really well... "
 

alphamale

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Apparenty you missed a large portion of what I wrote because that is obviously not what I suggested. LoL Its ok though. Your way works for you and my way works for me. Vapor lock has never been an issue for me but maybe me and all of the other guy ive seen with screening filters placed between the tank and pump were just lucky. Either way doesnt matter as long as the end result is the same.
 
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