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Raptor Lining Hard Top Advice - Updated - The Build Continues..

Tedster100

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Ok, I picked up a good hard top with only minor issues and I'm going to Raptor Line it so it's a little tougher than paint. I've also ordered new window gaskets. Any advice or tips to make the process easier or better? I'm a little concerned that maybe I should paint around the window openings and then mask 3/8" so the seals can lay flat instead of on the liner material. Anyone have experience with this? Any advice will be helpful, planning on dis-assembly, sanding and primer this weekend. Thanks!
 
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rwill

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I would tape edge of mating surface to insure a good flat fit.I have raptor on the inside of my tub and it is thick enough to cause a less than water tight fit.
 

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I learned the hard way as not to paint or liner the top of the bed rails. The added thickness of the liner will cause gapes above the windshield. Plus liner material sprayed were the lower doors seals go are bad also.

So when it comes to the top and anywere seals have to set against I would recommend against any kind of liner.
 

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I am lining the inside and the underside of my Bronco. I am also coating the inside of the halfcab. I am using the tintable Raptor liner, so I was even considering coating the outside of the halfcab. I am always afraid of hail damage as I drive my Bronco daily. %)
 
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All good points. I ordered new window seals so I guess I'll clean that surface and paint & then tape the width of the seal so I don't have an issue installing or being watertight. Guess I'll stick to paint on the maiting surfaces too so I don't have clearance problems. Thanks for the responses!
 
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Pulled the windows out and removed the rear gate. I'm floored at the lack of any rust on this top! there's surface rust here and there but nothing that needs any metal work!! Needs new seam sealer then I'm going to sand it down, primer and get it painted & Raptor lined as quick as I can. Thanks to jcb9089 for selling me the top, It's going to be a great addition!
 

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looking forward to see it, pics?
 
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Well, didn't get it sanded and primered but I did get it taken apart. Here's the pictures for Tasker. Notice the 70's style 'fro comb in the second picture, it would probably work for a squatch too!
 

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Looks good! Are you reusing the old glass? If so, how did you remove it? Will you be buying new seals for the 3 pieces of glass, or reusing those as well?
 
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The seals / rubber was checked and had some major cracks. I couldn't see doing all the paint & liner work and having to replace them later. I just cut the inside with a utility knife and they poped right out. With two people you could probably work the inside seal and get them out without damaging the seal. The glass also has a purple tint applied so having it out will make it a lot easier to remove the tint film.
 

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The seals / rubber was checked and had some major cracks. I couldn't see doing all the paint & liner work and having to replace them later.

I've said the same many times so far in my build, but in this case it's a bit bigger hit to the wallet at $150 for the 3 seals. Oh well, do it once and do it right :)

Are you having the interior raptor lined too?
 
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Yes, going to put the liner on the inside and outside. Should be interesting to see what it ends up looking like. I need to get some seam sealer & replace all that too, it's all cracked but I found that a little heat from a heat gun and the stuff comes out pretty easy.
 

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Sorry, I meant to ask if you were doing the interior of the vehicle. Was wondering how many raptor kits you thought you would use.

Also, you might want to check out Baja 71s build thread. His painter used some self leveling seam sealer for the hardtop. Turned out really great.
 

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I am planning on doing raptor liner in my interior and under body. From what I read you should be able to do total interior with one kit and have some left over (does not include doing top).
Aaron
 
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Sorry, I meant to ask if you were doing the interior of the vehicle. Was wondering how many raptor kits you thought you would use.

Also, you might want to check out Baja 71s build thread. His painter used some self leveling seam sealer for the hardtop. Turned out really great.

I did the interior with Durabak in a tan color. I like it but it does tend to scuff and retain dirt marks. If I had to do it again it would just be black or maybe a charcol in the Raptor Liner.

I saw the thread on Baja71's build, really like the look, think that's the way I'm going to go too.
 
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Ok, so in between everything else going on I've done a little more dis-assembly and sanding. Finally conceeded and pulled the sunroof out after looking at the dry rotted seal at the window, it's scrap. Going to pick up a new one this week. Got all the new seals and a new handle for the gate so all the parts are here.

Still can't believe how solid this thing is. I used a heat gun and pulled all the old seam sealer out and used a wire wheel to clean up the gutter. I'm hoping to primer tonight after a little more prep but I haven't added any filler or welded a single thing on this top!

I started to install the new self leveling seam sealer last night, SEM brand, works great I just didn't get enough. It should also be noted that if you pull all the old seam sealer out it will take 5 tubes at $35 each to put it back level with the top of the drip rail, oh yea and $60 for the gun. It's not cheap but it's the look I'm going for and will keep water from sitting in the rail so at this point I'm all-in. Another thing to note, this stuff really self levels, after spending 15 min trying to level up the gutters I got it about as good as possible. Problem is that the rail on the sides is sloped to the front and back around the b-pillar area. This caused some material (not much) to drip over the front corner. If I had to do it again I'd level the front and install that half and then level the back and install that half once the front cures enough (10-15 min).

I'm planning on getting the whole thing in primer and then painting the gasket surfaces and mounting surfaces with a black satin paint so it will match up with the liner. I may also add some duplicolor bed liner to the bottoms where it bolts to the bed and windshield. It's easily brushable and has a fine texture compared to the Raptor liner and will keep it from getting scratched up when it's off but still seal up with the new gaskets.
 

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Well, didn't get all the pics I wanted to post but I got a few. Stopped at the pick & pull & got a roof rack for the project. Thought I better do it now rather than later. Chevy Astro Vans have an aluminium rack that's easy to cut down to size. Got it mocked up and punched all the holes. Installed nutserts at all the mounting locations. I'm thinking the windows will go in this weekend so it can be masked and the Raptor Liner installed.
 

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