• Welcome to ClassicBroncos! - You are currently viewing the forums as a GUEST. To take advantage of all the site features, please take a moment to register. It's fast, simple and absolutely free. So please join our community today!
    If you have problems registering or can't log into your account, please contact Admin.

Relocating drag link and trac bar

fishinman78

Contributor
Sr. Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2017
Messages
461
I am getting a slight bit of flex out of my track bar drop bracket and since I have an adjustable track bar I thought moving it up one hole to be closer to the frame would provide more stability.

The new steering box I have installed has a longer sector shaft so to keep the drag link and track bar close top parallel I was thinking I would remove the drop pitman arm and just run a stock pitman arm.

Does anyone see any issues with this??
 

Attachments

  • 20200706_060426.jpg
    20200706_060426.jpg
    104.1 KB · Views: 105
  • 20200706_060402.jpg
    20200706_060402.jpg
    106.5 KB · Views: 96

SHX669

Bronco Guru
Joined
Jan 9, 2009
Messages
1,997
With my configuration { 2 1/2" lift , "78 knuckles , TRO } to get them paralell I moved my trac bar to the top hole and also had to install a trac bar riser on the passenger side
I prefer the top hole on the drop bracket for the reason you mentioned.
 

brbuilder

Jr. Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2007
Messages
163
Did you cut off the bottom portion of the bracket after you raised the drag link to the upper hole? I just hate to cut a perfectly good bracket but looks like it needs to be cut for clearance.
 

SHX669

Bronco Guru
Joined
Jan 9, 2009
Messages
1,997
brbuilder - yes i cut off the bottom portion of the bracket .
As you mentioned it allows for more clearance and it looks Way better without that excess hanging down . I suppose you should make sure that's how you want to configure the trac bar , drag link affair before you cut of the excess in case you change your mind. After two different steering boxes and different drag link /trac bar setups I was positive that's what i wanted to do. I cut mine off 3-4 years ago and still happy I did it - LOL
 
OP
OP
fishinman78

fishinman78

Contributor
Sr. Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2017
Messages
461
Drag link and trac bar look parallel to me in the pic.

They are parallel now. I want to move the track bar up to the top hole for more stability.

I then want to eliminate the drop pitman arm and got to a stock pitman arm so they are parallel after I move the track bar up.
 

brbuilder

Jr. Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2007
Messages
163
Thanks for confirming SHX669. I’ve installed a riser bracket and the std pitman arm. Everything lines up nicely. I was just hesitant on cutting the bracket.
 

bax

Contributor
Old Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2005
Messages
14,497
Get rid of the drop track bar bracket. (Great job welding that sucker on.) Go back to the stock frame mount location. Remove the track bar mount on the axle. Build a new higher mount on the axle. This will take the flex away from the frame. Go back to the stock pitman arm.Go with the new steering bars using the 1 ton chevy links. The drag link mounts closer to the right side tire. making the angle flatter / better.
 
OP
OP
fishinman78

fishinman78

Contributor
Sr. Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2017
Messages
461
Get rid of the drop track bar bracket. (Great job welding that sucker on.) Go back to the stock frame mount location. Remove the track bar mount on the axle. Build a new higher mount on the axle. This will take the flex away from the frame. Go back to the stock pitman arm.Go with the new steering bars using the 1 ton chevy links. The drag link mounts closer to the right side tire. making the angle flatter / better.

Are you talking about a heim setup on the steering linkage?
 

EPB72

Contributor
Sr. Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2019
Messages
853
Loc.
Pleasant Hill, CA
Are you talking about a heim setup on the steering linkage?

no bax is talking about using gm 1 ton tie rod ends and dom tubing plenty of write ups on this .. Ruffstuff sells a package to do the set up ,, there’s also a few ways to do it as far as using weldEd thread bungs or threading the dom tubing
 

Broncobowsher

Total hack
Joined
Jun 4, 2002
Messages
35,316
Bax is referring to regular steering parts, 1-ton steering linage parts.

I hated running steep linkage angles. While the bumpsteer didn't exist, bump yaw did. With soft springs the nose of the Bronco would pitch left and right with dips in the road. Drove in a straight line, steering didn't turn. But road dips would shift the front side to side.

Axle riser bracket fixed the yaw but created horrible bumpsteer. Drove in a straight line but the same dips now made the steering wheel turn side to side while driving in a straight line. I went heim and eventually changed to tie rod over to fix it. But the 1-ton parts also work.

Soft springs are a big part of it. If the front is so stiff you don't have any travel it doesn't really matter (except the track bar trying to rip itself off the frame). When the springs get soft and you get travel, that is when you find out how good the front end geometry really is.
 

EPB72

Contributor
Sr. Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2019
Messages
853
Loc.
Pleasant Hill, CA
Also as far as drop track bar brackets and the extra leverage on the frame ,,on the rubicon a friend partially tore the factory welds from the frame luckily there was a group behind us that had an on board welder the trail fix ended up better then factory
 

bchesley

Full Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2012
Messages
327
You don't have to remove the track bar bracket just cut the bottom of it off. Go back to the hole that uses the factory bolt hole. It will strengthen the frame more with it on there. By going to the higher hole you have removed the leverage that was causing the flex. Once you switch the holes you will have to run a riser from Wild Horses. See the photos below. I am running the exact set up they are describing. It works really well.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_1858[1].jpg
    IMG_1858[1].jpg
    136.4 KB · Views: 52
  • IMG_1859[1].jpg
    IMG_1859[1].jpg
    122.3 KB · Views: 49

bax

Contributor
Old Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2005
Messages
14,497
Yes that is the steering link set up I was talking about. You can see how the drag link is longer. With the drag link conection point being closer to the passenger knuckle this helps reduce the angle of the drag link.
 

Attachments

  • image2.jpg
    image2.jpg
    80.6 KB · Views: 31
  • image1.jpg
    image1.jpg
    83.2 KB · Views: 38

jim3326

Bronco Guru
Joined
Jul 12, 2010
Messages
1,781
Loc.
Appleturkey
Yes that is the steering link set up I was talking about. You can see how the drag link is longer. With the drag link conection point being closer to the passenger knuckle this helps reduce the angle of the drag link.

This must be the 'Made in Chy...na' model!;D
 

bax

Contributor
Old Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2005
Messages
14,497
I tried to flip them over. I suck at this
 

Attachments

  • image2.jpg
    image2.jpg
    80.6 KB · Views: 19
  • image1.jpg
    image1.jpg
    83.2 KB · Views: 15
Top