T bird caliper problems

[Dne007]

Yes, the bleeder definitely goes on the top, but the orientation of the bleeder on mine were still on the top, just offset enough not to get all the air out, that is until I put the calipers were they were supposed to go~ I'm unfamiliar with T-bird calipers so a pic would be beneficial

I'll get a pic when I get back out there. I was wondering about that. Im assuming the hose and bleeder should be on the top side of the caliper

 

[Dne007]

I'm sorry I don't have a very good picture, but you can just make out the caliper on my drivers side, note the bleeder.

 

[4x4man514]

I'm sorry I don't have a very good picture, but you can just make out the caliper on my drivers side, note the bleeder.

And you said thats a mustang? Mine looks nothing like that. The hose is kinda forward on top and the bleeder is kinda rearward on top.

Either way nothing is low. Just forward or back

 

[Dne007]

We’ll, it was worth a shot, but a pic of yours could prove helpful

 

[4x4man514]

Well I finally got the pics. The bleed is slightly higher than the incoming line so I'm gonna assume that is correct

 

[Dne007]

Yay you can post pics now. Calipers look ok, orientation wise. So what is the history of the calipers, are they new, used, had they been in operation recently? The reason I ask if they've been sitting up for a while, possibly seized, but when you try to push the pistons back in, open a bleeder then push; keeps fluid and contaminates from going back up to the master cylinder.

 

[4x4man514]

Brand new. I had to replace the passenger front cause it was locked down. It was brand new as well but been sitting for years.

My back brakes are bleeding out fine. This passenger front just keeps pulling air bubbles non stop. Im wondering if there is a leaking fitting but I cant see any leakage anywhere.

 

[Dne007]

Just the passenger front? hm, but the drivers side is clear fluid? but passenger bubbles?

 

[Dne007]

Far fetched idea, but remove the swedge which holds the caliper in place, tilt so that the bleeder is much higher than the banjo fitting, but the pads are still in contact. Are you pressure bleeding or gravity bleeding?

 

[4x4man514]

I'm vacuum bleeding

 

[Dne007]

Try just gravity bleeding, just open the one, or both front and let gravity do its thing. Remove the master cylinder cap, watch fluid to make sure doesn't go dry. See if it bubbles as the fluid escapes.

 

[4x4man514]

I get air on both fronts. Its worse on passenger though

 

[Dne007]

This is killin me~ but sure seems like the bleeders on the Ford calipers were straight up, not pointing backwards. Is it possible you have them switched, seems like I mentioned this earlier on. I did that on my Mustang and never could get a solid pedal until I switched them back correctly. If both are getting bubbles, worth looking into.

 

[Dne007]

Forgive me, I think your's are correctly oriented correctly, It took a picture googling to prove myself wrong.

 

[4x4man514]

Well I'm stumped. I don't know what else to do . I seem to be getting alot of air out of the bleed. I don't understand how that much could be there. Im getting as much or more air than fluid.

I had this problem last time I bled them but I realized air was leaking by the threads of the bleeder. I have a pile of permattex pipe dope caked all around the threads now icant see how that could be the issue. Could it be the new caliper? Prop valve ? Master? Everything is new .

 

[4x4man514]

Grabbing straws here but this is a pic of the underside of my master. That little half drop has been hanging there since all this started. Never been enough to actually drip I've been watching it. Could be some residual I haven't noticed before. Is this any recognizable sign?

 

[4x4man514]

Does anyone else have any t bird caliper pics installed?

I've been looking online and I kid you not its about 50/50 on which way they go.

Swapped the bleeder stays in about the same spot but points up one way with the hose on the bottom or towards back the other way with the hose up top by the knuckle .

The bleeder is higher either way. This job shouldn't be this difficult.dang.

 

[Oldtimer]

How is the pedal pressure?
Goes to floor, squishy, short travel & firm, long travel & firm?

Vacuum bleeding may be sucking air thru a leak.
If you have any pedal pressure, try pumping brakes to build up pressure, then stand on pedal and see if there are leaks at any of fittings between master cylinder and calipers (10 -12 of them).

 

[Dne007]

This is a pic of Ford granada brakes, same as your T-bird brakes. On the right is the drivers side assembly. Notice the inlet for the brake fluid relative to the bleeder? is yours orientated like that? It's very subtle. There is a left and right caliper, were your calipers marked L or R? Then lastly, did you bench bleed the master? For grins, it wouldn't take but a few minutes to swap from left to right~ after that, you're just going to have to problem solve

 

[4x4man514]

This is a pic of Ford granada brakes, same as your T-bird brakes. On the right is the drivers side assembly. Notice the inlet for the brake fluid relative to the bleeder? is yours orientated like that? It's very subtle. There is a left and right caliper, were your calipers marked L or R? Then lastly, did you bench bleed the master? For grins, it wouldn't take but a few minutes to swap from left to right~ after that, you're just going to have to problem solve

That looks like what I have. I guess its right