The Nyles EFI issues thread!!!!

[NYLES]

Nyles, didn't you tell me 3 or 4 days ago in my fuel injector thread that I need to do my EFI swap cause you had just finished your EFI swap and that I needed to do mine? LOL.

Long as you dont stick 4 bad injectors in it youll love it!

 

[NYLES]

Have u got all the kinks worked out yet?

Should have 8 remanufactured and tested injectors tomm, switched it to a single pump tonight and flushed it, Ill make sure the rail is clean before I put in the injectors If that dont fix gonna find another eec, or buy VW a plane ticket.

 

[NYLES]

I'm just thinking for that aluminum case to get dented it had to take quite a lick.. Wonder if your getting mixed signals from the ECM causing all these issues

only issue is keep pulling out bad injectors?

 

[stupidboy]

NYLES, when you flushed the system did you get any crap out of it?

 

[NYLES]

nope, but I put a new filter at the tank, not much change in filtering than before this ones a lil bigger.

 

[stupidboy]

Would have been nice if ya did, then you would have something to blame the problem on. You using a stock tank?

 

[NYLES]

ya remember this thread? think this where I messed up and payin fer it now!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYLES
VW why cant i get my injectors to click? there soaking BTW must be clean cause aint getting NO dirty stuff at all out of em. But cant make ANY of em click


That ain't good. Put an ohmmeter on them and see if the coil is ok. Should be about 14 ohms. If the coil is ok try blowing some air through them (40 psi) when you energize them.

I did buy a set of used injectors a few years ago that ohmed good but wouldn't open even after soaking for months. I think the pintles got welded to the injector bodies somehow. Waste of money.

 

[NYLES]

Would have been nice if ya did, then you would have something to blame the problem on. You using a stock tank?

no 4 year old 23 gal

 

[Viperwolf1]

ya remember this thread? think this where I messed up and payin fer it now!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYLES
VW why cant i get my injectors to click? there soaking BTW must be clean cause aint getting NO dirty stuff at all out of em. But cant make ANY of em click


That ain't good. Put an ohmmeter on them and see if the coil is ok. Should be about 14 ohms. If the coil is ok try blowing some air through them (40 psi) when you energize them.

I did buy a set of used injectors a few years ago that ohmed good but wouldn't open even after soaking for months. I think the pintles got welded to the injector bodies somehow. Waste of money.

Yeah. I didn't want to say I told you so.

 

[NYLES]

Yeah. I didn't want to say I told you so.

When so many of em did that i thought I was doing it wrong! and put em in!!!!!

 

[NYLES]

ok yall cross ya fingers, i got 8 tested flowed lifetime warranteed graunteed better milage goin in, right after i flush the rail and change the oil, no think ill change the oil after i know aint none of these stuck....

needs to work this threads gettin long!

 

[NYLES]

oooh ohhh WTH....gas in rail orange like pomolive dish soap orange? but rail is flushed out clean getting clean fuel, entire system is cleaned now......... yall figure that out while I put it back together

btw all the inj that where in it went clicky clicky, had sytem apart for flush so dont know which one is the stuck one guess where they goin?

 

[marty]

how long has it been since you last put fuel in it before you did the swap. if it has been a long time the fuel that was sitting in the tank is way bad. it more than likely is fuel with ethanol in it. if so it is phase seperating and more than likely corroding the crap out of the fuel tank. drop your tank and have your tank professionally cleaned. the ethanol is also absorbing the moisture in the air. this is the reason for the fuel changing color. i would not run your engine until you clean out the entire system and change all the filters. i see this all the time being in the marine business. when you removed the little filters in your old injectors did you find a whitish to brown powder in them. if so it is the ethanol. i see this crap everyday. todays fuel has a shelf life of about 3 months before it starts turning and losing octane. unless you treat it with some stabilizer. something to look at before you ruin another set of injectors which is what will happen for sure.

 

[NYLES]

fresh fuel from sat, but I know about ethanol hate the shit!

 

[NYLES]

Now for what yall wanna hear, running like brand new! however we have a problem.......
fired it up enjoyed the great running(best its ran yet) fuel pressure was fine was slowly dropping before the crankin, still running like a stang, well I turn it off to check the oil hear clicky clicky of a injector with the key off????
WTH.......fire it back up turn it off clicky clicky on the 5-8 bank......slowly fades away and stops...just fer WTH ...I do it again same clicky clicky fades away??????

Is EEC shot? In my peabody mind I dont see any other way the inj could still be firing if it aint the damn box!

 

[Buldozer]

It's proly the box between your ears! I think your loosing it!

 

[NYLES]

It's proly the box between your ears! I think your loosing it!

I dont hear too good and sometimes only what I want to, but I know what inj sounds like!

 

[marty]

are you sure all your power connections are hooked correct. and your grounds are good. how long do they stay clicking for. is there maybe something that could be back feeding or holding power like a electric motor. i know it sounds crazy but at this point anything is possible but i would think it would keep all of them firing. but it does sound like you have a bad injector driver in the ecm. you say you are using the rjm harness do you have the small power lead hooked in the right spot.

 

[NYLES]

are you sure all your power connections are hooked correct. and your grounds are good. how long do they stay clicking for. is there maybe something that could be back feeding or holding power like a electric motor. i know it sounds crazy but at this point anything is possible but i would think it would keep all of them firing. but it does sound like you have a bad injector driver in the ecm. you say you are using the rjm harness do you have the small power lead hooked in the right spot.

it connect S or I i have it on S

bout 20-30 sec only on 5-8 bank not #5 cause I disconnected it only one I can get man hand on

 

[Socal Tom]

I dont hear too good and sometimes only what I want to, but I know what inj sounds like!

My guess is you are hearing a rocker tap on a valve as it winds down.
If the fuel is orange in the fuel rail, it could be rusty inside. I had that problem and the rust was getting into injectors causing them to stick open ( sound familiar?)

BTW, if you unplug the MAF the ECU will fall back to its old speed density programing ( and estimate the manifold pressure), so since the ECU hasn't had a chance to learn this engine, it isn't surprising that it idles better and smoother without the MAF ( will probably run kind of funky, but will idle great)

Tom