Timing Chain

[bmc69]

Whut???

I speak Bax...ISWYDT...

 

[diveman76]

How I get around this is to install the crank damper as I install the timing cover. The crank seal self centers the cover. Then carefully start snugging down the cover bolts. Use the damper as the alignment dowel.

There are no alignment pins in my block. I don't know if the early blocks didn't have them or if they were removed. I'm waiting on my new damper to arrive. I have a feeling I'm going to be dropping the oil pan anyway to change oil pump and just get a look at it. Been sitting awhile.

 

[jamesroney]

How I get around this is to install the crank damper as I install the timing cover. The crank seal self centers the cover. Then carefully start snugging down the cover bolts. Use the damper as the alignment dowel.

There are no alignment pins in my block. I don't know if the early blocks didn't have them or if they were removed. I'm waiting on my new damper to arrive. I have a feeling I'm going to be dropping the oil pan anyway to change oil pump and just get a look at it. Been sitting awhile.

Correct. Your block never had dowels. The small block ford existed for 15+ years without dowels. They are a nice feature, but not necessary.

 

[diveman76]

Well I got off work early today pretty glad I decided to drop the pan. One pick is the pickup the other is sludge at pan bottom I'm still waiting on my new damper. When I go to put it all back together does the timing cover go on first?

 

[Broncobowsher]

Yes, timing cover first. Pan second.

 

[jamesroney]

Yes, timing cover first. Pan second.

yup, right after a set of rod and main bearings...

 

[diveman76]

yup, right after a set of rod and main bearings...

i hope your kidding. i'm already in above my pay grade

 

[Broncobowsher]

This is how you get a pay raise, just do it.

 

[jamesroney]

i hope your kidding. i'm already in above my pay grade

I am not kidding. With that amount of sludge in the pan, there is no doubt that your engine has been neglected, and has considerable mileage.

Roll a set of bearings in it, and put in a new oil pump. You can do it underneath the Bronco. I did it last week. Cost $100 for bearings from Oreilly auto online.

Best $100 you will ever spend.

 

[bax]

It's worth a look to check out the bearing condition.

 

[diveman76]

I'm on it. Definitely going to look into it. I have a new issue with the oil screen. I don't know what oil pan I have. I know my screen is from an 83-86 F150. Can't find any numbers on the pan. I know the screen has to match the pan from lots of reading. I don't exactly trust whoever put this thing together so I'll be stripping blue and orange paint then black powder coat trying to find some numbers on it.

 

[DirtDonk]

If you can’t find the number, the bottom line to me would seem to be just taking the usual measurements to be sure that it fits properly.
That would mean installing the pickup tube on the pump, then take some careful measurements using straight edges to see how far down below the oil pan mounting flange the pickup sits.
Then measure the depth of the pan and include the thickness of the gasket.
There’s probably a specification somewhere, but I believe you should find the pick up sits less than a quarter inch (or is it less than 3/8 of an inch maybe?) off of the bottom of the pan.

 

[bax]

Your "Big Red" creeper is black?

 

[diveman76]

Your "Big Red" creeper is black?

Lol. Yes.