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Zf gear banger

DirtDonk

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I should add that the way the GB is designed makes it relatively versatile in how you can mount it. While it's intended to go one way (being most Bronco floors are relatively consistent) it allows itself to be moved around and angles changed slightly to suit the driver. That also means it can be fiddled with at least to a certain extent to suit the individual Bronco.

Paul
 
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widowmaker77

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I can't say exactly unfortunately, because not only was his on a body lift, but also on a heavily modified tunnel to raise it up. So not sure how much of the original trans shifter was showing through the floor, and not sure how his rear bracket mounted relative to where it would normally be expected to, height-wise.
So while his main rear bracket looked largely un-molested, his floor was altered from where the ramp started in the rear almost all the way to the firewall.

The interface at the trans lever was altered because the ZF is different shaped than the NP435, but not sure it was all that much. Maybe a refresher in the way of a pic of the shift lever as it comes out of the transmission is in order. Then compare that to the NP435 and see what might need to be done.



Nobody does both that I'm aware of. The GearBanger IS a short-throw shifter. Just a round-a-bout way of doing it compared to the more traditional method. The idea was not only to reposition the shifter location, but to shorten the throw at the same time.
I don't know how they compare percentage-wise, and maybe the short-throw stuff has a higher ratio of change, but you still get some of the benefit with the GearBanger.
After all, the old NP435's were not exactly short-shifting boxes themselves. A little improvement was called for even while moving the shifter location relative to the driver.

I don't think you'd hurt the installation by using both, but I have no way of knowing just how short the throws would be with both.

Paul

I should add that the way the GB is designed makes it relatively versatile in how you can mount it. While it's intended to go one way (being most Bronco floors are relatively consistent) it allows itself to be moved around and angles changed slightly to suit the driver. That also means it can be fiddled with at least to a certain extent to suit the individual Bronco.

Paul
Thanks Paul for your help!
it may not be a good idea to mix both shifters together since they are both “short throw”. I really like the idea of having the shifter mounted back like with GB and enclosing it all in a console. Whether or not I will be able to accomplish what I’m after, well that’s another story. Lol
 

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I made my own "gear banger" copy to fit my application. If you make your own, you can adjust the amount of leverage gained and how short you want the throw. It took me a couple tries to get it feeling right.
 

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Here's a pic.
 

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Nice work. Very sexy looking. Is that a "re-purposed" Duffy's shifter?
Was it originally a t-case shifter, or the trans shifter?

Paul
 

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Nice work. Very sexy looking. Is that a "re-purposed" Duffy's shifter?
Was it originally a t-case shifter, or the trans shifter?

Paul

Good eye there Paul. It was originally for the 3 speed and I thought it looked good.
 

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That’s a good looking setup you made there. Am I correct in thinking that the closer you move the linkage to the top of the handle, the shorter you make the throw?

That's correct. I knew forward and back are easy but I wanted leverage for side to side with large bolts that won't fatigue or flex.
 

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Thanks for the compliments.

I drove it a bunch yesterday and I'm very happy with how it shifted. No issues going from 1st all the way over to reverse and going through the gears feels normal.
 
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Thanks for the compliments.

I drove it a bunch yesterday and I'm very happy with how it shifted. No issues going from 1st all the way over to reverse and going through the gears feels normal.

Thanks for your input! I’m definitely going to run some type of gear banger configuration. I really want a center console that will incorporate the shifter into it. I think that would look really clean. Something similar to what jb fab did in their red half cab.
 

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Thanks for the compliments.

I drove it a bunch yesterday and I'm very happy with how it shifted. No issues going from 1st all the way over to reverse and going through the gears feels normal.

great to hear that.. job well done
 

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I made a prototype about a year ago, still working on the final version but I have about an inch of throw on either side of neutral and the shifter sits very high like a rally car (my preferred height). Makes the zf a lot of fun to shift and tends to put a smile on the face of everyone who has driven it. Revision 2 will be a more friendly bolt on deal that will mostly be hidden by a custom center console. Glad to see others working on something similar.
 
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I made a prototype about a year ago, still working on the final version but I have about an inch of throw on either side of neutral and the shifter sits very high like a rally car (my preferred height). Makes the zf a lot of fun to shift and tends to put a smile on the face of everyone who has driven it. Revision 2 will be a more friendly bolt on deal that will mostly be hidden by a custom center console. Glad to see others working on something similar.

That sounds really nice! Be interesting to see what your final design will be!
 
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