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Any alternative to EFI Guy?

dmoses42

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So I saw in a thread a few weeks back that EFI Guy (Garry) doesn't have the ability to modify the Explorer computers any more, or something to that effect. I texted him a couple of days ago and haven't gotten a response. My harness is 95% done and I was waiting to get a couple of computers flashed until I was certain about the minor mods I want to do to the engine, and now it appears he isn't doing them anymore. Last time I looked him up on here, he hadn't been on since last July I think. Does anyone know of an alternative to him for computer flashing? Its almost sacrilege to use someone other than him, as much as he put into this swap on this forum, but if he's not doing them.... Thanks in advance.
 

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I believe he's not doing the mods for reasons related to regulation.
That's one of the biggest reasons I abandoned the Explorer EFI route and switched to edelblock proflo 4.

JB
 

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Garry has been proactive to what he has seen happen to other Tuners that the EPA has pursued. He has not had them knocking at his door yet. Best to be prepared...
He can remove things that do not affect emissions, like PATS. He can adjust for gear ratio changes and tire sizes.
He can tune ECU's, but it is generally on a case by case situation. There are so many variables to this process even I can't get my head around everything.
I believe that if he modifies/de-smogs an Explorer set up and your State requires the vehicle to be bi-annually smogged then he can't. But if you put Explorer EFI on older motor that doesn't require a smog then it might be okay.

This is one of those situations were you need to have dialogue with him and interject the particulars you have with him and then he can tell you yes/no. So I would wait for a reply from him. Single source providers are problematic sometimes, I don't know what we can do without him. I haven't heard of anyone else that does programing...

Garry is a busy guy, he bought property and has buildings that need upgraded. He is still doing harnesses and sounds like he has branched into other set ups... He rarely comes here or replies on FB.
 

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The incredible flexibility/capability of the current generation of Holley control solutions and the increasing scarcity of A9L and similar ECUs makes me glad that I took the Holley route. I'm up to speed on the HP system but will be checking out Terminator X for my next truck EFI conversion and I'm going with Super Snipers on the twin-turbo 534s I'm building for our Hatteras.
 

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Garry has been proactive to what he has seen happen to other Tuners that the EPA has pursued. He has not had them knocking at his door yet. Best to be prepared...
He can remove things that do not affect emissions, like PATS. He can adjust for gear ratio changes and tire sizes.
He can tune ECU's, but it is generally on a case by case situation. There are so many variables to this process even I can't get my head around everything.
I believe that if he modifies/de-smogs an Explorer set up and your State requires the vehicle to be bi-annually smogged then he can't. But if you put Explorer EFI on older motor that doesn't require a smog then it might be okay.

This is one of those situations were you need to have dialogue with him and interject the particulars you have with him and then he can tell you yes/no. So I would wait for a reply from him. Single source providers are problematic sometimes, I don't know what we can do without him. I haven't heard of anyone else that does programing...

Garry is a busy guy, he bought property and has buildings that need upgraded. He is still doing harnesses and sounds like he has branched into other set ups... He rarely comes here or replies on FB.

He got booted by fb, so text or email. The above is about right, he wont mess with smog on a smog engine, I don't know what he can do if you have an old block with efi on it, you would need a reply from him. I do not know an alternate source.
 

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He got booted by fb, so text or email. The above is about right, he wont mess with smog on a smog engine, I don't know what he can do if you have an old block with efi on it, you would need a reply from him. I do not know an alternate source.

Explains why his posts on FB disappeared, thanks for sharing that. I guess you can go to jail only so many times before they boot you off the island.
 
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Well, I guess I'll wait for a reply from him, since I sent him a text. Thanks for letting me know what is going on with him. I was curious what happened to him.
 

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I Have been planning to convert to explorer EFI but this may change things. Where can I find efiguys email so I ask a few questions? I dont want to purchase a lot of parts if I cant get the ECU flashed and a harness reworked. Thanks, John
 

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You can try Deciphia, he is on here. Well known tuner. Last I spoke to him he was looking for an alternative to the Moates quarter horse.
 
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OK, so Garry got back to me. Played a little phone tag, then we spoke today. He is still doing harnesses and flashing computers, but to remove any emissions from a computer he has some requirements so the EPA police don't get him. He requires a picture/copy/verification (title, registration, etc) that your vehicle was not required to have emissions from the factory, I think he said '75 or prior (might have said prior to '75?). And he also needs a picture of the casting number from your block to show it was produced prior to emissions requirement. He said if your engine was produced for a vehicle with emissions, he can't remove them from the computer. He also said EPA doesn't care anymore if it is offroad use only or not for what he does. Aftermarket blocks are ok, and I think he said a replacement crate motor is ok. Sounds a lot like what I've read about California's requirements to me. My Bronco is a '72, so unless the engine has been replaced in it, I should be good to go. His phone number and email I think is at the end of his harness rework videos. Maybe this will help some people on here....
 

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Can't you do something like Tweecer for it?


I thought about going that route for my Mustang EEC but ended up saying screw it and going bigger with PiMPxs.


Are the Explorers EEC-IV or V?
 
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This is the verbiage he sent to me in his email:

I have had to make some policy changes due to recent EPA interpretations. Google the "RPM ACT" for more info on that and write your congresscritters in support of it.

I can still delete the antitheft, make gear and tire size corrections, or switch transmission types. I can NOT make any changes that would affect emissions in any way. No EGR, CAT, or EVAP deletes. And no tuning for more power and efficiency.

This means that you either need to wire all of those emissions devices in or get used to the check engine light shining. I just need to be sure that the PCM is legal when it leaves here.

I can still disable the antitheft, convert it to a manual transmission, or program for gear and tire size with the 4r70w.

Please take a minute to support the RPM ACT. The bill is currently in committee, should it pass making modifications to off-road vehicles legal again then you can send the computer back to me for the necessary changes and I will only charge shipping for them.

Now, there are a few circumstances where I can make exceptions. If you can provide proof that you are using it in a vehicle that is early enough that it did not have any emissions equipment from the factory, AND also provide proof that your engine block also falls under pre-emission regulations, then I can tune it any way you'd like. Proof would mean sending me a picture of the vehicle VIN (or title paperwork in your name) and it pre-dates regulation. Or a receipt, or pictures of an aftermarket tube frame. AND... pictures of the casting numbers on your pre-regulation block, or a receipt that you are using an aftermarket block. I need to be able to show that both the vehicle and the engine did not come from a production vehicle that is subject to EPA regulation. In addition, you will have to agree that it is being used in an offroad environment only. You can attach the pictures via email reply, or print them and send them with your order form.
 
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