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Trying to find Rear Bumper with tire carrier that hides lower portion behind Stock Chrome Bumper

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JeepGuy

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I thought it was weird. Couldn't find it under bumpers..

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I had the same problem trying to find it initially. It's not real obvious and kinda just blends in with the rest of their set-ups until you start looking for that chrome bumper under the tire. Then to make that even more complicated, their current picture has a Red Bronco with a Black Bumper 😁
 
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I would love to have it but dang man, over 1,400 plus shipping.. Going to be awhile and I will probably drive over and pick it up.
Yeah, it is a big hit to the wallet. My first options were more towards the plate bumper style but the wife really wanted to chrome bumper stockish look. Happy wife, happy life. The bottom half of the bumper showed up today and I can tell you the pictures of the bumper do it no justice. Beefy is an understatement.
 

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I hear you. I have installed one and your right, they are stout.

I am sticking with a plate bumper. Just ordered a front bailiebilt today.
Going to order the rear later and add a swing out tire carrier.
 
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Cannot go wrong with a Balie bilt anything really. Post up some pictures when you get it.
 

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Final product
 

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Updates on this:

Top part of the bumper showed up the following day. No notice, not knock, my kid who was on watch for the delivery guy reported no sightings so there I was a bit disappointed to say the least that Fed Ex somehow picked up three items from one location at the same time, all shipping to the same place, and for some unknown reason decided to separate them during shipping across the country. Taking the trash out late at night on day two of Fed-Ex watch (walked that same path multiple times during the day) and come across the top half of my bumper laying there against the house by the garage door... (y) All is good I guess, but I still left Fed-ex a nasty gram on their shipping procedures. Oh well...

So first up was double checking the stock style rear bumper for clearance. Noticed it was a bit bent in towards the body on the passenger side. I took it to the body shop (AKA Drive way) and got it up on rack (my garage floor doubles as a rack at times). After a close examination a plan was formed, safety procedures were adhered to, and the bumper was pulled back to straight with some little tugs and the use of a small sledge and 2x4 in the proper areas.
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I didn't get after pictures, but you get the point. Plenty straight for this application. On to the carrier.

I'm not sure what requires a shipping company to place so many barcode stickers on these things but let's just say there wasn't a single piece of metal that didn't have something stuck to it. On top of that, who ever made the glue that holds these stickers down needs to be either sent to prison for the rest of their life or promoted to head sticky affixer guy at whatever company makes those labels, because it took me probably close to 2 hours to get all of them off using a standard paint scrapper, flat razor blades, standard screw driver, and copious amounts of Goo-Off and Brake cleaner. Got them all cleaned up and started the test fit process.

The instructional video on this install covers pretty much everything you need to know. And for the most part, it went right into place without much issue. A little prying here and there to line up the bolt holes was needed and a strategy was formed for putting it all back together after paint.

I will say this. They recommend taping off the passenger side rear bumper panel and I SECOND that recommendation whole heartedly. With exception to maybe having someone sandwich their hand between the bumper and body during install, I don't think there is anyway you can install this without hitting that body panel at least once. My Bronco is still perfectly painted in tears and primer, so I'm not too worried, but if it were actual paint that was cared for, you'd probably end up damaging it a bit. Just an FYI.

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The lower bumper fit and was shipped off to the paint booth (AKA Rear patio). There it received two coats of primer, and about three coats of Rust oleum Gloss Black. There was a little debate here amongst myself and myself as to which paint color to go with. We decided everything below the tire carrier portion would be the same as the frame paint choice. I'm going to use the same paint and color on the hinge portion of this bumper as the tire carrier portion so that will get its actual color in a couple days. For now, the bare metal is covered in a couple coats of primer. Lower portion of the bumper mount will get a couple days of drying in the garage as upper portion gets worked on.
 
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On to the tire carrier swing portion of the bumper:

I test fit this upon the initial lower portion install to confirm the hinge didn't get smushed. Everything lined up so now I was onto figuring out how much I wanted to break this thing before it needed fixing again (that's usually how my projects go). Decided at a minimum I would add a third wheel stud location. Not sure why, but my brain doesn't think the two stud only option is enough to hold the spare up there. Runing 35" x 12.5" BFG's on U.S. Indy 9" wide aluminum wheels with the 4.5" back spacing. The tire carrier is set up with the mounting face 4.5" from the tube frame of the carrier. So just putting the tire on there without squishing the side wall will not happen, meaning the back of the wheel will not sit flush against the tire carrier. Still working through this portion of the install and considering just going and picking up some basic wheel spacers to make up the difference. My local McFadden and Dale hardware store does have plate metal that I could just slap across the whole thing to bring that face out, but I'm not sure I want to risk properly drilling 3 holes and adding the additional weight of the 1/4" steel.

Used a little paper and washer to mark the third hole location.
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Then loosely mounted the tire carrier to the back wheel/tire to make sure everything lined up. Learned here that the provided 1/2" wheel studs with a 5/8's grooved base go all the way through the tire mount without any bite, so my initial plan of welding in studs is for sure going to occur.

One of the options discussed above was placing a little support on the mounting bracket to rest the tire on and align the studs to easily get the spare in place. I ended up going to the driveline shop that built my rear driveshaft and picked up a piece of tubing that should work out just fine. Plan is to obviously shorten it to about 1" - 1.5" out from the wheel to allow room for a lock of some sort and potentially a rear facing internal camera mount.

Here is where I am as of this morning.
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You can see in the pick above there is about an 1/8" difference between the tube and wheel opening.
Below is the current state of the completely dried lower portion.
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I did the same thing with the wheel studs - added a 3rd and had my fab guy weld all of them in place.

Looking good so far!

Todd Z.
 
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I did the same thing with the wheel studs - added a 3rd and had my fab guy weld all of them in place.

Looking good so far!

Todd Z.
How did you deal with flush mounting the tire? Did your set up sit flush, or did you add some kind of backing between the wheel and mounting plate?
 
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How did you deal with flush mounting the tire? Did your set up sit flush, or did you add some kind of backing between the wheel and mounting plate?

Mine sits flush if I recall correctly (I'll double check tonight). On a past configuration (different wheels), I used a wheel spacer.

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I had a spacer cut out or mine would have seen the tire sidewall go to zero on the bumper ~1/4" before the wheel's mount surface met the mounting plate.

The tube wants to stick out of the wheel slightly more than the exposed length of the wheel studs. It could be shorter, but I wanted to be able to hang the spare on it without worry of it sliding off because it can't get on it fully before running into the ends of the studs.

Since I had to cut Protofab's thin plate off anyway (changed the lug pattern) I designed (& had made) the plates to allow for a press-fit on the studs. Use 4 studs (of 8) that are the same p/n as those in the rear axle. Worked out well since the studs were sold in batches of 10.
 

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I enjoyed the read lol. We kept our hands behind the bumper all times, except for once, but everything was taped up. We got it back on without scratching anything. Basically no bumper hanging out. We cut 1.5 inches of each side. My 31 x 10.50 on 4 inch backspacing is hitting the frame. I will make a boss for wheel out of a bolt and whatever size pipe I need. Weld bolt to pipe drill a hole in the holder and bolt it down, since I already have it powdered coated.
 

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How did you deal with flush mounting the tire? Did your set up sit flush, or did you add some kind of backing between the wheel and mounting plate?

I checked last night and my tire is sitting about 1/4" away from the carrier itself. l think I used the spacer when I had wheels with 4.5" backspacing.

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Annnndddddd, we're back!

I was messing around with my welder a bit since I hadn't really done anything with it the last couple years. Picked up some grade 8 fine threads for the wheel studs in the same size/diameter/thread as the other wheel lugs and got them mounted in there.

Next up was assembling my down draft paint booth. And by that, I mean my garage with a fan perched atop my washing maching, facing down on low, with the other fan shooting out the bottom of the garage. And yes, I am a professional... I used my Ryobi electric blower to sanitize the garage of any possible dust particles prior to painting. Took minute to figure out the best option for hanging the upper portion of the tire carrier but eventually got it up there.

A good cleaning then two coats of white primer to try and match the same color tint as my door jambs...

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Prior to putting down the real color is sprayed the tube between the studs with the same Rustoleum used on the frame and mounting section of the lower bumper to keep it simple. Got it all taped up and blasted through two cans of Hot Ginger, then one can of 1X clear to seal it all up.

Learned very quick that the 1X clear and Rustoleum DO NOT play well together. I'm not too worried about that as I expect the ceter tube to get scratched up pretty good by the wheel so lesson learned is what I'm going with for future projects.

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Next up was mounting. Everything here was pretty straight forward after the initial test fit. Hardest part was re-organizing my nuts and bolts for the proper side and placement.

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Bumper is mounted and solid. I was a bit curious what the rear view would be now with the tire sitting there as it appears to occupy the entire passenger rear view. Took it out for a little test drive, no rattles (or at least no new rattles) and everything seems to ride as it should.

Here is the view with a 35" tire on there. I am running a 1" body lift.

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Next up for the rear will be figuring out some kind of rear camera mount and maybe adding some reverse lights.

All in all, pretty straight forward install process and appears to be a quality product. Will need a little trail testing to see how it holds up to the bumps.
 
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