Recovery gear

[ntsqd]

There' this guy on ADV who goes on Epic trips, like ride a Springer Fork Chopper literally around the world or fly to Seattle to buy a 100 year old motorcycle and then ride it back to Alabama, and he is famous for never finishing a trip report. You're in good company.

I still need to test that dog bone and see how or if it works. I figure that if you can use a heavy branch to do the same thing (as is taught in some winching classes), this nylon bone should be fine, BUT it needs testing. Should I just send one to Yeller since he seems to winch a heck of a lot more often than I do?

 

[ntsqd]

Also, I recently stumbled onto this company and their triple 8.0 HP motor 8274 clone, just in case you don't have enough line speed or something:

Blazer M3 - COMEUP INDUSTRIES INC. | Manufacturer of Premium Winches and Hoists

Blazer M2/M3 Competition winches were awarded the Taiwan Excellence 2021. Triple 8.0 hp 12V series wound motors for the ultimate in power and high speed line pull. Three submersible sealed contactors w/silver-alloy contact pads for proven reliability in extreme conditions. Rugged 3 stage s...

www.comeupwinch.com

BTW, at full giddy-up that's ~1500 amps that it pulls. You're going to want a couple 8D's in the truck......

 

[Yeller]

I really like Comeup winches, they are a very high quality product. I don't know if in conditions where it was needed that I could keep up with the free line speed just spooling it up, would probably find me laying down being drug like a fat seal Yes you better have some battery back up happening there

I don't see why the dog bone wouldn't work, I can testify that tree branches work, however I have crushed them to LOL but they were of questionable integrity to start with. Now that we have soft shackles, I feel it is less relevant, as long as you have enough of them. I really don't feel like I do that much winching, and when I do, it is usually a roll over or the 3" needed to get unhung from whatever stopped progression and backing up is not an option. Often due to the monkey's I hang out with attempting the impossible

As a side note... one of my preferred tiedown, recovery and accessory companies, has a care package coming. I'll be sure to share about that, helping them develop a new product that most of us can use, even those that don't own a winch. I'll post that up once it hits the market, maybe even a sneak preview

 

[Broncobowsher]

Also, I recently stumbled onto this company and their triple 8.0 HP motor 8274 clone, just in case you don't have enough line speed or something:

http://[URL]https://www.comeupwinch.com/products-view.php?ID=84

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BTW, at full giddy-up that's ~1500 amps that it pulls. You're going to want a couple 8D's in the truck......

I thought gigglepin had the hot rod 8274. First time I seen a triple motor 8274. Line speed so fast that you can suck in the whole 200' drum in under a minute. As little as a 22:1 gear reduction when normal winches are somewhere in the 100+:1 range.

As for a winch extension, if you put it through a pulley you can double the strength and cut the length in half. Too long of an extension isn't a problem. I would only do that with static lines. Trying that with some stretchy kinetic stuff is not smart.

 

[gnpenning]

Using a pulley can work, providing you aren't already using it for the multiplication, then you would need extra pulleys.

You would have to be pretty desperate to use a kinetic rope for a extension.

 

[Yeller]

I second on not using a kinetic rope as an extension. I’ve done it, as a last resort. It worked but felt terrible and wasn’t controlled like a winch recovery should be.

 

[ntsqd]

Ditto, used one when we didn't have anything else. One of the fairly rare times I've been involved in a winch extraction. Only saving grace was that it was for 4x4 and we were pulling a 'glass buggy back onto the road.

Anyone seen Casey's video on using a soft shackle pulley in compound, i.e. triple reduction? Talk about some force......

 

[Yeller]

Ditto, used one when we didn't have anything else. One of the fairly rare times I've been involved in a winch extraction. Only saving grace was that it was for 4x4 and we were pulling a 'glass buggy back onto the road.

Anyone seen Casey's video on using a soft shackle pulley in compound, i.e. triple reduction? Talk about some force......

Yes and done it, used a bunch of pulleys, straps and shackles but it worked. Was at the 4wheel Jamboree at Indianapolis. Pulled a semi straight in his booth, front axle sunk. Worked like a charm. The fair grounds folks probably would have had a stroke, pulled on a concrete guy wire anchor, it stayed put so all was good.


I feel like I should invest in a couple of those large Yankum pulleys, hard to justify when I’ve used a pulley less than 1 time per year over the last 20 years. I do carry 3 of them though for the just in case.

 

[Nothing Special]

.... One of the draw backs is they are long, which is part of what makes them effective, the longer they are the more power they store for the given input, ....

So, the solution is a shorter rope. I can't take credit for the idea or the idea for the rope, that belongs to Rory Irish of Trail Mater fame from Moab UT he had a 10' recovery rope built just for pulling dead or impaired vehicles. ....

I'm sure you know this from what you say here (and, well, it's you!). But emphasis on "built just for pulling". Rory emphasizes that a 10' "recovery" rope is no longer a recovery rope. It's too short to store the energy it needs to to do that job well. So you can tow with it, but you can't take a big run at yanking someone out with it.;/

 

[ntsqd]

Maybe I should move that 12' Ø5/8" double eyeleted rope out of the CTD and put it in the Recovery Bag that goes on every off-road trip.