Pulling engine and Trans together or separate ?

[Broncobowsher]

Bumping an OLD thread. I'm taking the original drivetrain (302/3 sp/Dana 20) out of my '69 this weekend. I have a decent transmission jack that I will use and I will drop the trans and transfer case out of the bottom. My question is what to do first? I'm inclined to do the trans/transfer case first, as recommended above by @Broncobowsher

Thanks

My recommendation was/is to remove all three in one shot. Seperate them on the ground, out of the Bronco.

 

[jeffncs]

Some considerations….

Before buying my current mega hoist, I had a HF hoist that wouldn’t lift high enough to clear the rad support and the legs were too short for me to have confidence in finding the right balance to pull all 3.

(I’m happy to lend this 1 if you’re anywhere around NC. )

If pulling separately, remove the t-case from the transmission to reduce weight. Then pull the trans. Engine goes last in my world.

 

[Oldtimer]

Having just pulled 4sp toploader/D20, then the V8 engine, I would never pull engine first. Before pulling tranny/transfer I placed 2x4 across radius arms and stacked some boards to support bell housing/engine.
If pulling engine/tranny/D20 as complete assembly it looks like you would need to tilt near vertical to clear core support and fire wall?

 

[bulletpruf]

Some considerations….

Before buying my current mega hoist, I had a HF hoist that wouldn’t lift high enough to clear the rad support and the legs were too short for me to have confidence in finding the right balance to pull all 3.

(I’m happy to lend this 1 if you’re anywhere around NC. )

If pulling separately, remove the t-case from the transmission to reduce weight. Then pull the trans. Engine goes last in my world.

I have the 2 ton HF engine hoist and I'll be using it on level concrete. I'm not worried about getting enough height to get everything over the radiator support; I can just pull the front wheels off if needed.

But the balance point is an issue.

I like the idea of removing the transfer case, then trans, then engine. I have a transmission jack so that helps.

Thanks

 

[bulletpruf]

Having just pulled 4sp toploader/D20, then the V8 engine, I would never pull engine first. Before pulling tranny/transfer I placed 2x4 across radius arms and stacked some boards to support bell housing/engine.
If pulling engine/tranny/D20 as complete assembly it looks like you would need to tilt near vertical to clear core support and fire wall?

What I generally do when removing a trans before or without removing the engine is to hook up the engine hoist to the engine and put some tension on it. That should keep the engine in place while I remove the trans.

Thanks

 

[DirtDonk]

I’ve always done the transfer case and transmission from underneath for the same reasons. With my limited tools, it just seemed less awkward.
But I’ve never heard anyone claim that the pulling of the entire assembly out the front was impossible. I’ve seen it done many many times.
Lots of members here have done it that way.
But I do wonder whether they’ve all yanked from the intake manifold flange, which is common when doing just the engine? Or if you’ve used a more robust bolt to the cylinder head with a chain? And one of those tilt mechanisms?

 

[DirtDonk]

And regarding pulling the items separately, always remember the issue with the manual transmission, and the output bearings.
If you separate the transfer case from the transmission at all, you must lock the transmission into, I believe, first gear. Could be reverse, or it could be first, or it might not matter. But you must lock it in position so that the rear shaft does not pull out far enough to let the roller bearings fall out of the Interface.
That’s probably the most critical aspect of the whole thing.