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Alternative options then fold an tumble pass seat?

Gas Pig

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Has someone come up with solving the issue of the passenger side access to the back seat with an aftermarket high back seats? Right now the kids of (22 and 19 yrs old) just climb through middle of the front seats or over the side with the top off. lol

I thought about adding a secondary track to the passenger seat that would extend the seat to the dash. It might make more room then to squeeze between striker post and back of the seat?

Before I spend time and energy, I figured I’d check to see if someone solved this issue already.
 

nvrstuk

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Best of luck on this one! My brother and I crawled thru my parents this way till we both left the house and their '69 Bronco was our only "car" till we got a '53 Chevy p/u to run around in when Dad drove to work every day.
Same with my kids but we ended up with a 2nd "car", but all long trips and vacations were the Bronco and them crawling between the seats.

This is one of many reasons I don't consider the "new Bronco" a true Bronco.... doesn't have any of the quirks the EB's had/have (except loud air leaks) that we have to deal with when driving and HOPING we make it to our destination because it's 50 yrs old. lol just my .02
 

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This if you can get it. It is neat and pricey.

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Nope, but I would love a solution too! Thought about running the Amp bed steps so they can just crawl over the said ;)
 

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This was always a challenge in our family growing up because we routinely carried people in the backseat of our (now my) Bronco. My dad designed/built a flip mechanism for the passenger's seat in our truck in the mid/late '80s. I happened to snap a photo of an old snapshot of it a few days ago for another reason. It at least gives you an idea of how much room the mechanism gave you. This was with junkyard Toyota seats.

In the mid 90s, when my semi-professional junkyard puller career began, I pulled a similar setup from an 83-85 Bronco II (which had given my dad the idea in the first place), modified it, and used it for many years with fixed back suspension racing seats (Beards and Mastercrafts). Now we have the Duff/Lick Creek setup, which works well, is based on the same principles of what I used but of course is a lot sportier and has a price tag to match. I think my Bronco II setup cost me about $10 :).

Just some ideas of what people have done.

Todd Z.
 

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This was always a challenge in our family growing up because we routinely carried people in the backseat of our (now my) Bronco. My dad designed/built a flip mechanism for the passenger's seat in our truck in the mid/late '80s. I happened to snap a photo of an old snapshot of it a few days ago for another reason. It at least gives you an idea of how much room the mechanism gave you. This was with junkyard Toyota seats.

In the mid 90s, when my semi-professional junkyard puller career began, I pulled a similar setup from an 83-85 Bronco II (which had given my dad the idea in the first place), modified it, and used it for many years with fixed back suspension racing seats (Beards and Mastercrafts). Now we have the Duff/Lick Creek setup, which works well, is based on the same principles of what I used but of course is a lot sportier and has a price tag to match. I think my Bronco II setup cost me about $10 :).

Just some ideas of what people have done.

Todd Z.
I love it!!!

I’m just disappointed in myself for not thinking of that concept! I’ll probably just make one! The one mudstud listed looks awesome but I’m guessing it’s going to be a price be more then my better 1/2 will want me to send … so our kids can get in the backseat easier! 😂
 

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This has been tried by many of us decades ago and this setup works well with low neck supports or buckets w/o headrests. If you look in the picture below. The head rest hits the windshield way before the seat slides forward far enough for you to get your foot between the door striker post and that back corner of the seat.
On some types of seats you have to physically hold the back of the seat from flipping forward all the way with one hand as you try sliding the seat forward for enough access room with the other.

It's not as much fun as it looks!! :(

The farther fwd your seat pivots to the front (hits the windshield) the worse your approach is to the back seat.

Stock buckets? This works good.

Brackets similar to this I've used for access to the back seat in street rods.

Check out Speedway

Don't think this is a fix-all.
 

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This has been tried by many of us decades ago and this setup works well with low neck supports or buckets w/o headrests. If you look in the picture below. The head rest hits the windshield way before the seat slides forward far enough for you to get your foot between the door striker post and that back corner of the seat.
On some types of seats you have to physically hold the back of the seat from flipping forward all the way with one hand as you try sliding the seat forward for enough access room with the other.

It's not as much fun as it looks!! :(

The farther fwd your seat pivots to the front (hits the windshield) the worse your approach is to the back seat.

Stock buckets? This works good.

Brackets similar to this I've used for access to the back seat in street rods.

Check out Speedway

Don't think this is a fix-all.
Yeah I can definitely see what you are talking about! Because of how high the seat actually is it hits the windshield before the seat bottom is fully out of the way. But is it still passable? Right now they are just climbing through between the two front seats and because of that I can’t use the center console.

Does Speedway sell the folding forward Bronco seat base?

Once again, thanks for everyone chiming in on this!
 

nvrstuk

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Totally dependent on:

-seat height
-how far fwd seat back flips
- how tall seat back is
-how tall and fed facing neck/head restraint is
-how large seat base is frt to back

Face it-EB's are unique and this is why a Gen 6 is "different" not the same rig.

Speedway's bracket works better than nothing. Every rig and every seat is different!!

Gotta try it
 

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I love it!!!

I’m just disappointed in myself for not thinking of that concept! I’ll probably just make one! The one mudstud listed looks awesome but I’m guessing it’s going to be a price be more then my better 1/2 will want me to send … so our kids can get in the backseat easier! 😂
I was going through some albums last night looking for some other things and came across these old photos of the Bronco II bracketry in my truck in the late '90s. It replaced the one I posted earlier in the thread.

Todd Z.
 

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Totally dependent on:

-seat height
-how far fwd seat back flips
- how tall seat back is
-how tall and fed facing neck/head restraint is
-how large seat base is frt to back

Face it-EB's are unique and this is why a Gen 6 is "different" not the same rig.

Speedway's bracket works better than nothing. Every rig and every seat is different!!

Gotta try it
If you leave the seat back in a more upright position does that help at all?
 

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That looks like it moves forward quit a bit.
I was going through some albums last night looking for some other things and came across these old photos of the Bronco II bracketry in my truck in the late '90s. It replaced the one I posted earlier in the thread.

Todd Z.
 
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Totally dependent on:

-seat height
-how far fwd seat back flips
- how tall seat back is
-how tall and fed facing neck/head restraint is
-how large seat base is frt to back

Face it-EB's are unique and this is why a Gen 6 is "different" not the same rig.

Speedway's bracket works better than nothing. Every rig and every seat is different!!

Gotta try it
The seats I have is what you have pictured in your orange truck. Can you take a picture of it from the angle as someone was getting into the backseat?

Thanks again for all the great info!
 
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I was going through some albums last night looking for some other things and came across these old photos of the Bronco II bracketry in my truck in the late '90s. It replaced the one I posted earlier in the thread.

Todd Z.
Yeah I’d like to find one of those seat brackets just to play around with it but I can’t seem to find them online or even on eBay.
 

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The way I’m addressing this passenger seat problem is going from a full cab to a half cab. 🤣

Randy
I did the same. Kept the fold and tumble in the back for passengers for 20 yrs- not kidding. I'd remove my windscreen if I had someone in back, you know, to be sociable!! lol
 

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Being as I’m not a social person, about the only person that tolerates my driving enough to ride with me is my wife. Lol 😂
I’ve got the factory front seats and the rear bench but there’s a great need for an upholstery surgery and they are not going back in. Lol Picked up a pair of bucket seats out of a 2002 Mitsubishi Montero to gain more movement plus a headrest. Have to mod the mounting points but that a minor issue.

Randy
 

1buckeyefan1

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So I'm embarrassed that I didn't see this thread earlier and re-posted the same question today. Gaspig, I think we're both in Ohio.. i'm on the hunt for the same solution. If we can jointly figure out, we're probably close enough to share the design/parts. I'm either going to build one, or rework the Jeep YJ bracket (I'm stuck on the left side where it would normally rest on the tunnel).

So I'm finally getting around to the stage of building seat brackets for my Besttop Trailmax II seats. I like the fact that they're high-back and they align nicely with my Krawlers Edge cage+seatbelts. The problem (that many others have faced also) is access to the rear seat without the factory fold/flip/latch method?

I really like what Duff/Lick Creek did with this one.. but it's been saying OOS/Coming soon for almost a year now.. I haven't bothered to call them yet and ask why (redesign, no demand/supply?) It's also pushing $700+ after shipping/tax that I could put elsewhere. The cost includes that i'd need a set of EB driver sliders too (I already have the Besttop sliders)

https://dufftuff.com/product/lick-c...old-and-tumble-seat-bracket-for-early-bronco/

I'm considering adopting an old J**P YJ bracket.. it has a bend in the inner foot though that would require some fab work on a different mounting method.. but would line up nicely with the Trailmax Seats. I assume this is where LC got their inspiration. I really like though how it sits in a forward position w/out having to fold/tumble.. which works with a high-back seat.

Does anyone else have a creative solution for retrofitting high-back seats and still getting access to the rear? I found a few mention's of an old ToddZ / Bronco II posting, but most of it seems to have been lost to time (the site is gone). I also saw a few posts about a full-size seat flip.

I'm not afraid of fab work and have access to a plasma burn table for a short period of time. Just looking for inspiration!
 

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1buckeyefan1

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Speedway's bracket works better than nothing. Every rig and every seat is different!!

Gotta try it

Any chance you have a link or part # for the speedway bracket? I've done a cursory search and only finding fixed brackets on their site.
 
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